[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']It really seems like this thread was created just to bash the Dub of Naruto or dubs in general.[/COLOR][/quote]
Ouch, dont be so hasty now. I love some dubs, such as the Full metal Alchemist and Dragonball Z serires. I just truely despise the Naruto dub.
[QUOTE=r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed]Just background info on me. I started with the Naruto Japanese Anime. I downloaded every episode and kept the highest quality ones on my harddrive, eventually filling up 30 Gigs of Naruto.
Eventually I learned the Manga was ahead so I started reading that. I now read Naruto every week on the [b]day[/b] it comes out.
I paid Fifty Dollars for a Konoha Forehead Protector because it was official.
I paid Forty Five Dollars for Naruto Manga even though it was Japanese.
I have Naruto posters on my door, and my friends call me a Narutard.
I made avatars of myself with BYAKUGAN eyes.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Wow. Its OK to be a fan but...WOW...-_-;
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']I read the English Naruto MANGA and I hated it.[/COLOR][/quote]
I like the English Manga. Shows more detail than the Englsh dubbed Naruto. And its authentic.
[QUOTE=r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed]How come we can't vote for English Manga?
This is the main reason that it seems like you just want to bash the American show. You put English and Japanese, but you didn't do so for the Manga.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
First off, by manga i mean in general (English or Japanese, if you like the manga at all). I cant read japanese, so how could i understand japanese manga with no english text? I dont want to bash the show, its..decent. Im making comparisons, sorry if i offended you,#1 fan.
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']Oh, so you mean they removed episodes?[/COLOR][/quote]
Never said that, they removed detail, the bases of anime.
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']They changed genders?[/COLOR][/quote]
Not to my knowledge
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']They removed vital relationships and events from the series?[/COLOR][/quote]
Events such as detail; 'High Powered' fight scenes.
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']Did they change the personality of any characters?[/COLOR][/quote]
No. Only some voice acting takes away from personality.
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']Did they ruin the names?[/COLOR][/quote]
They killed Naruto's name.
[QUOTE=r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed]Problem here is that Naruto isn't for adults. It was intended for kids in Japan, and it's intended for kids in the United States. Like I said, I love Naruto, but the series doesn't have that much plot depth. The "plot twists" can often be guessed in advance because they're overly hinted at, and the characters are extremely exagerated. Even their names are puns so that Japanese children can remember them easily.
The show being on Adult Swim may have allowed them to show a gush of blood here, and a certain scratch there, but it wouldn't have changed much. It would also have been the death of the series here.
If the show was on Adult Swim, very few children would have access to it. Naruto is a powerhorse, it was already very popular and there must have been a lot of competition to be the licensing company for something so popular. The main purpose for bringing a powerhorse over to the states would be for it to make money and if they don't sell it to the right audience, nobody will buy it.
Finally, even if it WAS on Adult Swim, you wouldn't get your precious kiss scene. Even on Adult Swim, things are editted for content. In such a time where homsexuality and gay marraiges are such a sensitive topic, no licensee in their right mind would keep that picture in. (And I say picture because that scene had pretty much no animation in it.) Parents, soccer-moms, would be calling the show evil instantaniously. Cartoon Network wouldn't be able to keep the show for a week.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
You are correct as far as that goes. Naruto is a giant 'powerhouse' and it is all about marketing because before you know it they will have naruto trading cards, video games; another fad for America. And who are going to be the 'populace' that would buty these things, yes, children. In a buisness sense they made a brilliant choice by putting the series on Toonami. But for fans it would have been better on adult swim. (the kiss scene would be shown if it was on adult swim as i said more detail, even unwanted detail)
[QUOTE=r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed]Here's the thing. You a) don't speak Japanese, and b) heard the Japanese version first.
Since you don't speak Japanese, it's harder for you to catch those little nuances that Japanese people have and don't have. If nobody told you that a certain character had a Tokyo Accent, would you have known?
Since you've spoken English your entire life, you can tell that the dub characters don't speak the same way you do and seem fake.
Since the Japanese have spoken Japanese their entire lives, they can tell the same things.
I'm not saying the Japanese cast is better or worse than the English Cast. I'm saying you can't say anything unless you're fluent in Japanese.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Yes this is true, but it still doesnt take away from the fact that the way they say Naruto is annoying, and they made Kakashi and Iruka sound like adolecents.
[QUOTE=r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed]True. The Anime has more detail in fights, as well as character development. It goes into big character stories that the Manga doesn't. Though, because it passes over these sections, the manga goes by really fast, which is a plus for me.
Sometimes the detail in the anime can be annoying because it goes sooo slow.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
It depends on how fast you read manga, then.
[QUOTE=r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed]I could say the same thing about you and the Naruto Subs you've wase. There's a big difference with comparing "the English Official, and the Japatched. Unless you've seen the raws and translated the show yourself, of cournese Official" and comparing "the English Official, and the FANSUB of the Japanese Official".
Like I said, it seems like this topic is just an excuse to bash the dub.
Personally, I love the dub. It really is a good dub. Unless you've been watching Anime for a long enough time, you wouldn't know what real censorship and bad dubbing is.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Alright, I watched the Japanese version of Naruto than the English. When I saw the English, i could say it was a bad dubbing. You could see for yourself, the emotion in the characters are hardly there.
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']If you don't like dubs in general, and you're against dubbing, say so. Don't bring down the name of the Naruto franchise just because you think that listening to the Japanese DUB is better than the English.[/COLOR][/quote]
Im just bringing the name of the American Naruto francise down. They already sadly mocked the series by bringing this kind of dubbed version out. They could have done better. I woud love to see a better English version of Naruto with the same japanese theme songs.
[quote name='r2vq][COLOR=DarkRed']I vote for the English.[/COLOR][/quote]
They could have at least kept the theme songs.