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What is this lack of respect towards women, huh?


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[color=#9933ff]Visualkei - I totally and completely agree with you, on everything. Heero yuy, yes as everyone has said, that guy is a complete jackass who's insecure about himself, and so he needs to make fun of others. Man, I'm Asian too - I'd be completely pissed off if he said something like that to me.

[quote name='Visualkei']Most women just want equal opportunities, and to be treated fairly by having the same opportunities as men. I really don't think that's asking for a lot.[/quote]
Thank you! As a bright young woman who wants to enter into a career in science, and perhaps even politics, I know I have my work cut for me. I shouldn't have to fight for the same position that a man would easily be given, but because of gender discrimination, I do.

I credit all the pioneers in the women's movement, and all the brave women who have made my path easier. It's still gonna be difficult, but not as difficult as it was for them.

Someone on page 1 asked, what should we do about it, and no one wants to answer that question. We'd all like to gripe about it instead. I think that feminists need to keep persuing female interests, especially in the government.

Wait, wait. Let me define feminism first. I did an entire report on the 1950's and 60's movement, so I'll dig out my definition.There is no single feminist theory or set of principles, and even the classification of different types of feminists (liberal, socialist, radical), assumes stereotypes. (Losely) Feminism as a movement is: the act of making "the issue" all about women, as a response to push for equality between men and women politically and socially.

So, I think feminist political activists are needed to call attention to those discriminating against women, to make the government (at any level) uphold equality laws. I think women need to persue their careers, no matter if it's a field dominated by males. It's hard to even get a job, but keep trying. Don't give in. Pave the way for the next generation.

I feel that the best way to START to overcome gender inequality and discrimination in all aspects is to use the laws to push for equality. If women can show that they are just as capable as men (and men aare finally starting to realize that since the last few decades) in the workplace, and can be just as secure economically, I think that their attitudes will change. Then the attitudes of those around them might change. In order to enact a social change in regards to relationships and perspectives on women, I think we (women) need to show we are capable in others aspects, i.e. work.


I would also like to say that a lack of respect for women - as human beings - is intolerable. But what bugs me is the opposite: a need to "protect" all women. I've had a nasty run-in with someone like this, and though I didn't say so, I find it highly offensive. I can take care of myself, goddammit! I don't need someone to care for me or "save" me. *growls. ... wants to kill him.* (And ironically, I can take care of myself a lot better than he can take care of himself, might I add).

Just a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T for another (woman) human being, based on how much said women gives respect, is all we're really asking for.

(...Visualkei, like I said, you hit the nail right on the head.)[/color]
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[font=Verdana][size=1][color=DarkSlateGray][color=DimGray]Male chauvinism really pisses me off.

It's not necessarily how they're raised (although that does play a large role), but how [b]society[/b] says they should be. Some have mentioned how music could be a factor in all of this, and it is (see [b]rap music[/b]), but I believe that television plays a larger role in the entire scheme of things.

Look at the shows on tv these days. How many of them involve these "[b]macho[/b]" guys treating their girl like some sort of [b]posession[/b]? A lot, that's how many. And [b]sports[/b]? Don't get me started on sports...

But then again, my blaming tv on the world's problems could just be my way of finding a [b]scapegoat[/b]. Sometimes people are just [b]stupid[/b] and there's nothing you can do about it.
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[/color][font=Times New Roman][color=Black] [quote name='"Farto the Magic"][/color][/font]That guy deserves a good [b]maul[/b]ing. Not so much a beating, just [b]maul[/b] him.[font=Times New Roman'][color=Black][/quote][/color][/font][/color][/size][/font]


[color=DimGray] I'll see what I can do...[/color][/color][/size][/font]
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[COLOR=Sienna]Some people just seem to be inherently stupid and therefore ignorant and disrespectful towards everyone, even those they consider friends. It seems more like a case of they are a jerk and not that women aren?t being respected. I know plenty of guys who would never say or do something that disrespectful to anyone. So I don?t think it?s a case of guys are jerks. I can easily list women who are just as pigheaded and ignorant as that guy you dealt with.

Our society does try to force people into certain roles, but in the end it?s a weakness inside them as it?s often easier to just follow what you?ve been taught or seen instead of learning to think for yourself and make your own choices as to whether or not you are going to treat others that way. It helps if your parents teach you to be nice, but in the end once you?ve grown up if you behave that way it?s your choice and saying your parents, TV or anything else is responsible is just another way of avoiding responsibility.

The sad part is that changing is often so uncomfortable that people can?t take it and often go back to being what they are use to doing. Even if it means they are a jerk. So the best way to combat it is to make sure you don?t do it and set a good example to others, especially if you have kids. [/COLOR]
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