Plant_Angel

Good greif I hope not, thats all there is to say other than; None of them are gay None of them have any suspicious type relationships with supporting characters Frank Marlon especially Knives is an ok guy, he just has a few screws loose. And a superiority complex. Well, who doesnt?

*ahem* "I had my suspicions you were no mere mortal, but I never realised you were...........a cat. What the hell am I saying?! Where is that idiot!!!?" Ah Wolfwood, he is the coolest supporting character ever (and still alive too, yes he is!) Oh, and I forgot Vampire Hunter D, I saw Bloodlust first and it was like nothing I'd ever seen! What design, what beauty, and what a waist line!!! He's probably the most stoic of my favourite characters and no, I dont think his hand makes up for it, it has to there otherwise the script would be a lot shorter (and he would be stuck in that curse forever). Then again I did like the last line "You're not so bad......you just DRESS bad" Funny.

I think you need 250 posts to become a Junior Member. Any day now....... ....... ... *snore* What? Eh?? Nah, Knives isnt gay, twincest, whatever! Well, he's only one of two.......but I doubt he has any plans to repopulate Planet Gunsmoke with his brother, Adam and Eve style (hmm, I wonder who's who?). Maybe Rem didnt get that far with their education.....anyway he has a better chance with Legato.

Hey, Vash isnt either! .............I hope. Nah, he's not, HE'S NOT!!!

I always find that animes with brilliant characters in are always the best, action and animation usually come second, but when you have all three, youve got anime perfection. It goes without saying that story is the ultimate importance (well, in most cases!). My favourite anime character is most definately Vash the Stampede in Trigun. It was absolutely THE funniest thing when at the start you think he is really cool and dangerous and then he turns out to be this idiot, but then he isnt really and.........he's hard to pin down, in more ways than one. Thats why I like him as well as his adorable face, lets not forget. Another favourite character of mine is Sho Fukamachi from the guyver series, it was the first anime I saw, so it has a special place in my heart. I link Link too, from the Legend of Zelda series, does that count? The new game is very chibi........... Oh, yeah and Kuroneko-sama in Trigun, makes me laugh EVERY time! Like MillieFan I too like the loveable idiot (even if they do endure immense emotional tragedies almost everytime)

I still beleive that Legato always had his power, Knives saw his potential, and when he did blow off Vash's arm had no objection to letting Legato keep it. Legato did say in the dub "I was compelled to attach this arm to myself, I had to because you would not be by his side" Legato did it himself, meaning he was already aquainted with Knives and Knives isnt the sociable type, so he must have been important to him anyway. In the manga Knives talks to Vash on his ship, while Legato stands by to make sure Vash is unable to move the whole time. I dont think Knives would let a human in on a personal conversation if he had the ability to manipulate Vash himself. As for whether he would turn against Knives, I think he would have tried that whether or not he had his powers from Vash if thats what he intended to do, but his loyalty is a mystery. Perhaps Knives kicked his *** some time in the past, I dont know. This is just my opinion, of course. Well, MillieFan, I have imported all the Trigun and Trigun Maximum manga from Japan (thats eleven books in total so far) and the story still hasnt reached a conclusion yet. I know of a couple of sites with translations, and I do have a go myself, but my Japanese is limited and probably not worth quoting!

Its scary how some Doujinshi beleive that Vash and Wolfwood must eventually progress to some kind of bed scene........ Nope, I dont buy it either.

The Plants in the manga do have human like features, perhaps more so in than in the anime, but could never actually be mistaken as human, but I still find it unlikely that Vash and Knives were purposefully created. Evidence in both the anime and the manga suggest they werent. In the anime we are given a breif shot of Rem standing infront of the capsule they are in before they were 'born' shouting "No, dont!" while the rest of the crew stand with guns dressed in full radiation suits. Not what you would expect from a purposefully created scientific experiment. In the manga, Rem is the only crew member while the others are still in the cryogenic sleep chambers. A year after their birth, Rem takes the oppurtunity to explain to Vash and Knives what happenend. We are shown flashbacks of Rem discovering them at the bottom of a Plant bulb, the look on her face suggests that she did not expect to see them! I mention Rem was on her own because there was an autonomous Plant that came before Vash and Knives called Tessla, but she was driven to her death by over experimentation by the whole crew (a discovery that leads to Knives's ultimate hatred and distrust of humans, not to mention immense psychological damage to both of them as children) When they discover the files with photo attachments, Tesslas progress is charted from AFTER birth, and there is no evidence to suggest research was carried out on the pregnant Plant. The mother Plant is only shown having just given birth, bloody, and with Tessla at the bottom of the bulb. Nothing suggests it was planned.

What I meant was by the way of the writers making an obvious connection for the viewer to see that a character is or isnt most certainly a Rem reincarnation, but I guess its foolhardy to assume an anime would lay out such an important theory on a plate. If it was THAT obvious Vash would notice anyway and we would have an entirely different story altogether....

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fate [/i] [B][color=teal]Knives would have to be more powerful [i]mentally[/i] in a "mental pressure" sort of way to make someone like Legato have respect for him. Otherwise, Legato could've taken Knives out.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] I think this is possibly the truth, when Vash and Wolfwood approach his fortress in Maximum 7 Wolfwood is knocked back by the force of pressure of Knives's presence. He also fails to kill him when he had a gun pointed directly at him, earlier in the series. I think Legato was convinced of his superiority. I still think Legato had his powers from the start because otherwise he was just a simple human and why should Knives give a human the power of a Plant when he could do that himself? Its difficult to determine what Plants are and the Angel Arms does look like bark......I am reminded of using the energy from a potato to power a light bulb back in first year Physics. When you suggest that Vash and Knives were "specially enhanced" do you mean some kind of human intervention in their creation? From what I gather they were found, 'mutation or evolution' was the term used. Who knows the origins of Plants, its something they havent decided to reveal yet (if they ever do).

Ah come on thats just silly! Im mean didnt even try anything with those two ladies who were all for a bit of "fun" on the sand steamer and he was drunk then...............or maybe we are suggested something entirely..........not nice about Vash....... I wont beleive it!!! Hes just a guy who makes freinds easy (and an alcoholic...)

I hope we're not assuming that Knives and Vash are Plants as in pretty flowers. They are 'Power Plants' genetically manipulated something or others, I dont think they are some form of tree given sentient thoughts. Think of those big bulbs and everything that is refered to as 'lost technology'. Those two are 'lost technology' in a way. Vash and Knives were born to a Plant, it doesnt make it very obvious in the anime, and I dont know how one of those things got preggers, but there you go. Theyre are just the same only they are autonomous and free thinking (and cute, sorry but they are ^_^) I dont think Vash is 'more human' its just that he trys so hard to fit in. In fact Vash's 'flow', his power, is a lot greater than Knives. My opinion of Legato is that he always had his power to control others, thats why he is so useful to Knives and why he was able to graft Vash's arm to himself, extending his life somewhat. I think he is actually about 40. Legatos importance is underlined as he is the only GHG without number. I am unsure of whether or ot he could overpower Knives, but his immense loyalty is a factor that would prevent us from ever finding out anyway.

Hmmm, if your watching the episodes shown on TV then I dont want to say too much, wait for episode 24, they dont reveal too much, but there is a point of interest (why does Legato insist on licking his arm, for instance) I hope that isnt too obvious...... As for why he works for Knives, there is this 'superior breed' complex he has and maybe Legato has bought into this. Who knows. In the manga Im not sure of Legatos motives, but he has coins he hands to each of the GHG, if Vash gets them all he has something planned, but whatever that is, I have no idea worth mentioning. Legato has shown he can manipulate Vash, but not Knives. I have a theory on this, but I really dont want to say anything that might spoil anything so soon. He is definately not a Plant reject, he states himself that he is human. If you have see it all let me know and I will post my entire theory.

You know, Im not sure if any of either of them are reincarnation. Even if they were, they might not share any of the previous character traits of the former life as Rem. They do share her 'compassion and idealism', but so do others, it was not feelings unique only to Rem. Intelligence is also a quality not unique to Rem, even though she did tend to contradict herself. Rem decided to base Vashs haircut on that of her former boyfriend Alex, so he must have reminded her of him. I dont think its fair to compare the anime and the manga as the anime has taken very different turns as far as the characters are concerned, though not too different as to change them entirely. In the current book, Meryl is scared out her mind of Vash and who she's realised he is. Meryl and Millie being descendants of Rem is a little farfetched, the guy Vash goes to meet in July is related to her somehow, but he is the last link as Knives states over his dead body "now everything that brought you and Rem together is gone" Though the branches of family trees strech far and wide, they can all be traced to the beginning of time, and saying that, we are all related to each other by sharing a common ancestry. If any character had unmistakably similar attitudes, ideals and looks as those as Rem, it would be a lot easier to say, but as it stands I think its very difficult indeed to say some one is or isnt with any degree of certainty.

Um, I would hve thought that if anyone was a reincarnation of Rem then it was more likely to be Meryl. The scene in episode 25 when the guy is holding a gun to Vash and Meryl steps in with something about not taking the lives of others is clearly a parody of the incident with Rem on the ship when one of the crew members loses it and kills the woman and Rem steps in the way before he shoots Knives. This and the fact that Meryl is the only person that Vash can talk to about himself and that she feels his pain as her own (how else could she possibly begin to understand?) Millie has ggod morals, so I can see where youre coming from, but I think that if she were reincarnate Rem then she would have got along a lot better with Vash than with Wolfwood. Im not saying that either definately are or defnately arent, but this is my view on the whole thing.

Well, maybe an evil genius with the knowledge to make evil bronze automatons to spread the darkness and is cutting down the forests and poisoning the rivers, or sea if you like, creating ghastly monstrosities and mutations and attempting to make the Zelda universe the way Clowmet has suggested. You know, bossess like the turantula at the end of Wlid Wild West, big evil robot things, but sort of crude(ish) like scary stuff from the Victorian era. I mean, the mere suggestion has already got you guys riled, what would you do if this villain attempted to make it a reality? Only YOU could prevent it!

The person doesnt have to be all that weak, I think its just that those guys are terribly strong. I mean, Raidai the Blade nearly killed him, and he still acted silly when they were about to fight. As Millie put it, its his way of "painting a brilliant colour over it" (see Trigun Maximum book 6) and its better than "crying and looking all sad" (~Vash~Max book 6) He acts all crazy cuz hes all sad inside AWWWWWWWW And kuroneko-sama is great! "I had my suspicions you were no mere mortal, but I never realised you were.......a cat?!" LOL!

Hey, its PLANT Angel! Why dya think I sit in this bulb all day?! I just dont know which Vash is better, but the "man who will slaughter the innocent......" speech in English (episode 2-Truth of Mistake) is just SO FUNNY. In fact that whole episode is SO FUNNY! They seem to have kept as close as possible to the Japanese voices, right down to the kids, and I think it justs depends on your preference. I have to find this Kenshin!

And Millie is the female presenter on the tv show for bounty hunters in Cowboy Bebop, and Im sure I heard Rem in Outlaw Star, dont know the name of the character but its the woman who hangs about with Gene in the episode with the cactus and the bug. Im gonna have to go back and listen to "the jerk" Steve and see if it is Gene, I never noticed. Oh yeah, Vash is the black power ranger from way back (think the original movie), he was the frog! Kawaii!!

Oooooh, I dont, Legato is eeeeeeeeeevil! EVIL!!

Kenshin, eh? I'll be looking out for that one.....how much of it is there? Anything with a similarity to the way Trigun is played out must be very interesting ^_^ What would you give Kenshin as compared to Trigun? (I havent seen it, you know) Oh, a lot of replies came from nowhere, sorry! Im refering to Gokents review and comparison to Kenshin :cross:

I want them to bring us more merchandise!! Ok, so Im a born collecter, but I really like the looks of that cuddly Vash. And the action figure. And the keyrings. And.........well, a lot. -^____^-

Yeah, I went to Italy on the first week of Easter holiday (boast boast) and there was a list of things not allowed to be taken on planes and one of them was 'Knives' writen with a capital letter as if it was a name. Imagine him trying to explain that to customs!

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by VashtheStampede [/i] [B]FACT OF TRIGUN: it didnt do good at all in japan even though thats where it was made :whoops: [/B][/QUOTE] I guess thats why we havent heard anything about sequels or movies. Or that video game for that matter. The manga is still going, even though it switched publisher after the first three books, becoming Trigun Maximum. That'll be another one of my favourite animes that didnt do so well in its home country.:(

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