REVENGE2

How the flying **** can you make a live action DBZ movie, anyway? Even verses Piccolo it would suck

How can his mom be Latin? There haven't been Latins for over 2000...no, make that 3000 years. The Latins became the Romens. I see what you're trying to do...and I wish you luck. You'll need it.

Let's see... Magic, that's one thing... A well-devolped plot, that's another... Comical relief, but only if used in moderation... Interesting characters, there's a good one... Heh. Past that, I'm good

Ah Oh well. THE GREAT AND ALMIGHTY DARK LORD has been proved wrong. C'est la vie

[quote]Well, according to Tamer_Zach, each writer will be focusing on the characters he or she creates, which solves not only the problem of managing all those characters, but also the problem of who writes about which characters. if people can handle development of larger numbers of characters, then let them do it. I couldn't, which is why I don't have many.[/quote] There's a problem with that, though. If each writer writes only for thier own characters, when we do not have one collective Digimon series, but rather four seperate fanfics. If one writer cannot pull in the other four characters for usage, then there's no point to calling this "Our OWN Digimon: Brought Into Effect". It should be more along the lines of "Our OWN Digimon: A Collective Mass of Disorienting Posts" I've got a lot of experiance with this. When you have gone two seven Annual Meeting of the Board of Fanfic Villains, two of them which went on for more then 50 pages (of twenty-five posts per page), and where godmoding was not only allowed, but EXPECTED, then you can see disorientation from a mile away. Please, listen to me on this. I know next to nothing, but this is one thing I do know: You're doing this the wrong way. What should really be done is this: 1) have people come up with humans/digimon/both, like you're doing now 2) Do many, many polls, electing and eliminating each character, until you're left with a predetermined ammount of humans/digimon/both - let's say for the sake of argument, five humans and five digimon 3) Pair off one human with one digimon 4) Find an ammount of people who wish to write for this. 5) Give them an order in which they shall write, and then they are responsible for every episode. For example, Sue is responisble for everything third episode, while bob is responsible for every fifth. 6) Write and pray. From then on, it's just write and pray Otherwise - this is from personal experiance, again - all that is going to come of this is the following: 1) There will be many, many characters introducec 2) Nothing but characters will be introduced 3) People will stop posting here 4) This topic will fall behind and be forgotton Or, if you're lucky, 1) People will make characters 2) People will start writing the episodes, but each set of characters is independent form one another 3) People stop posting 4) This topic will fall behind and be forgotton I speak with experiance, again, and I cannot stress enough how many times I have seen this happen. Not only that, but you're also going to have to collective come up with a storyline. Example: When I was writing Neo Destined, I knew EXACTLY what I was going to do five steps later. Even as I wrote down the first lines, I was thinking about how Zack was going to meet up with Sarah, John, Dana, Alex, and Kai. Even as Kai and Zack were being controled by Gorgonmon, I saw Zack falling in love with a Geistmon, while still loving Sarah. And even as I wrote that, I was planning out my next series, Neo Frontier, right up to the birth of Faith - which was the midpoint of the series. *** Oh, and um, Zach? No offence, but Andros doesn't sound at all Japanese. I think it's Latin, actually, but that's beside the point. It should be more like Anudorosu, if I'm getting my romanji correct, but most Japanese names aren't more then 3 syllibles long. That one appears to be five. A-nu-do-ru-su. Andros is only two, but it's not Japanese...a problem Constructive critisism

Ah...I might as... Woah, wait, hang on, time OUT, STOP THE PRESSES AND THE CHARACTERS! We have too many characters here! Good thing I stopped myself and noticed this. How many characters are there right now? There's ten in the last character post alone! Dude, I have written a digimon fanfic. I have twelve charactrers - six humans and six digimon - and it was HELL to write for them!! Somehow I managed to do it for 219 pages, but that's beside the point. IT WAS HELL ON EARTH! I'm sorry, but you should not have allowed for so many characters to be created. It's a nice idea for an RPG, but there are too many here for this story to go very far. Trust me. I know. I'd suggest three humans and three digimon at most (following the idea of Tamers,) or just six humans or six digimon (following the idea of Frontier) They creators of Digimon did this so that they could do better character developement. I mean, imagine the Hell they went through for 01. And then they had to do 02! Ack! I don't want to imagine that! It HURTS! Look, you probably just wnat to have basic stereotypical characters. I know, I know, it's used, but speaking from personal experiance, for the good of this story, do it. I'd have the following: Nerd character - glasses, really smart, but few friends. Quiet, but incredably smart and good at imrpovisation. Not quite like Jou or Izumi, but along those lines. If he makes friends with anyone in the group, it'll be with the Loner. Prefferably male in gender; and the digimon will likely be smart like the nerd, but more outgoing Loner character - stays away from the group; doesn't get involved. Quiet, but even more so then the nerd character. Convinced that she's useless to the group, but has a special talant of some kind. She probably comes from poor upbringings. Think along the lines of Ken. Prefferably female in gender, and the digimon will probably be just as quiet and withdrawn, but more sure of herself Ditz character - Completely unawear of the woreld around her. If told to bring 'only the essentials', that will likely include make-up and an industrial-sized hairdrier. Yet she can sometimes see through to things that others can't, although she likely doesn't even know that she's doing it. Think of Mimi, is very likely female. The digimon partner will either A) be just like the character, or B) be an ugly one but which shines with an inner beauty "Holier-Then-Thou" character: Better then everyone else. Why? because it's just something he is. He doesn't have to be mean, and he doesn't have to be cruel, but he still probably thinks of himself as the greatest. Think ofTai, Daisuke, and Takuya. Can be either male or female character equaly. Digimon will share the same attitude as the human partner but is more realistic in it's veiws ("Of course I was afraid! I'm not Supermon!") Joker character: Life is a joke. Why is life a joke? because when people fight over stupid peices of land, you have to remember to laugh sometimes. he always has a sarcastic remark or a quick joke ready, and they're fired off in equal proportions at all the other characters. But he, like the ditz, can sometimes see the world in a differant way. I can't really think of a character like this from a Digimon series, but if anyone here read Animorphs or Everworld, then marco and Christopher, respectively, are these characters. Digimon will be a carbon...sorry, a silicon...copy of the character, but knows when to be serious. Prefferably male Jock/Bully character - Same idea of the Holier-Then-Thou character, but in a more muscular, stupid, Give-Me-Your-Lunch-Money way. In a Digiworld situation, he'll likely be the first to freak out and the last to charge into battle. Perhaps the only good point to this character is that he's also arrogant. While a "Holer-then-Thou" character may realise he's not the best, the same does not apply to this character. Think of Vegeta from DBZ. Male, always always always. Digimon is exactly like the human

He didn't seem bent on revenge to me. Someone hell-bent on revenge doesn't act the way Baba-di does. I think it's more along the lines of he wanted power, he heard that his father made this funky powerful thing, he found and ressurected that funky powerful thing, and then promptly got killed but that funky powerful thing. He wasn't revenge-bent. Revenge-bent people either do the job themselves in a blind rage, and probably get killed in the process, or spend years of cold calculation, and don't take any chances, and probably succead Baba-di was just power hungry, and revenge was a neat side effect of getting that power

It's probably not a TV special, but instead a short movie. Japan has a few of those. Short movie theartres. They show movies which are perhaps 40 minutes long at most, one after the other. Most often they're connected to a series. That's what the Digimon movie was. Three seperate short Digimon movie shown in Japanese short theatres. Americans, being stupid and ignorant, lack short movie theatres. A note: I'm an American so I'm insulting myself as well

Possibly. We do know that DBZ takes place a few million years in the future (look at a map of that world sometime)

1) Multiple forms. Name ONE DBZ mainseries villain that couldn't change into a new form. Even Vegeta could do it. Even Piccolo (getting really big). 2) Unstopable for most of the time until a mircale happens 3) Annoying voice. Piccolo and Vegeta sound like they've has a bug up thier ***, Freiza sounds like...I don't know but it's really annoying...Cell has this high-and mighty voice and I HATE the 2nd form's voice, and Majin Buu either talks like a kid or talks like an idiot. That's pretty much all it takes

Yeah. Downloaded a DBZ music video. Okay, my brother did, but the effect is the same. 'bout Vageta. Linkin Park's "In the End" Yeah. And there's a few clips from this one movie which I'm interested in. From the clips. Basicly, Goku and Vegeta apear to be in a land of floating jellybeans and spiked balls. Both of them are dead (they've got halos). Also, they do the Fusion dance, meaning that this is after the Majin Buu saga. They're fighting some kind of magenta-and-really-light-gray thing with horns and extentable arms and stuff. Looks like he can reform after blasts, too. And when Gogeta (...er, is that right for the Fusion dance one, or is it the same regardless of method?) defeats the thingy, it gets all sparkly as it disapears. 1) Which movie is this? 2) Is it avilible for purchase or rent in America? 3) Is it possible to download it? (dubbed or subbed - doesn't make a differance to me, because to me there is no differance)

Mostly courtosy of an interpretation of the fourth book of the increasingly misnamed HitchHiker's Guide to the Galexy trilogy. 1) Anything that happens, happens 2) Anything that, in happening, causes something to happen, causes something to happen 3) Anything that, in causing something to happen, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen. 4) But not necisarrily in chronological order. So, something can cause something else to happen, then cause something to happen, and then happen itself. Or, something can cause something to happen, then happen, then cause something else to happen. Or any other number of infinite things. After all, something else else might happen. Or something else else else. Or something that never really happened in the first place could still cause something to happen. Anyone else need a pangalactic gargle blaster right about now?

Does it ever give an age?

Last time I checked, JRR Tolkien was a very strict Christian. There are Christian hints all over LotR if you know where to look. Most of the people who say D&D is Satanaic are going around with white hoods over thier faces and also preeching about White Superiority, i.e., the Ku Klux Klan. Stupid Klan members. I especially hate them because "The Klan" would have been a great name for a trash metal band. *** What happens if I disagree with God? I still fail to see why he's so much better then everyone else just because he created us. Especially the God portrayed in the first book of the Bible (I can't spell testimate...testimet...you know what I mean, so I'll just use OT). Most of the OT is concerned with God comming down on group C for what group A did to group B. Group A: Caine's descendants Group B: Seth's descendants Group C: Llamas What did the Llamas do? Does it ever say that God was unimpressed with their work as Llamas? That they had failed to be proper Llamas in Llamadom (That sounds like a Muslim word...freaky)? NO! But all but two of them took the big swim along with all the other animals. Group A: Egyptians Group B: Israelites Group C: Firstborn children The egyptians will not let the Israelites go, so god kills all the firstborn children of each household not marked with a funky symbol. IS THAT FAIR?! Think of all the things that those children could have grown up to do! They had done NOTHING! That pisses me off a whole lot more then the Llama issue. If I were the egyptain pharaoh, I would STILL not have let the Israelites go, in fact I would have ordered the death of all thier firstborn children. Jesus isn't truely much better. This is from a web page I stumbled across one day. This guy basicly takes a bunch of random things and gives them ratings, inculding Star Wars villains, the Seven Deadly Sins, Unreal Torment weapons, and the Miracles of Jesus. Withering a Fig Tree You might want to look this one up, because if you haven't read it you're not going to believe me. It's in Matthew 21:18-22. Christ is hungry, he sees a fig tree, but there are no figs, so in a scene reminiscent of "The Fox and the Grapes II: The Revenge" he curses the tree so that it will never grow fruit again. Weird. Eerie. Disturbing. C- ------ Also all the deadly sins. A lot of them aren't actually that bad. -Gluttony: Quoting Brunching Shuttlecocks: "Most people group sloth and gluttony together as the Slob Sins, but the fact is that your dedicated glutton puts a lot of effort into his or her sin. Finding the stores with the pillowcase-sized bags of potato chips, checking out which lunch buffets shut down at 2:00 and which go on until 3:30, taping Nabisco commercials--gluttony can be hard work. Take time out to give a glutton you know a pat on the back and a bite of your sandwich, just to say "Hey, thanks for being a glutton."" -Greed: if it weren't for humanity's greed then we wouldn't be here. We'd be in Eden, running around naked and laughing our heads off much like the Rei clones in the tank in Evangelion. -Lust: Come on! Like thre's a single angel in heaven who hasn't lusted after someone or something at some point. It's like in Dogma. It takes faith to believe that Mary was impregnated by God himself and yet still a virgin. It takes stupidity to think that she was a virgin for ALL her life. Lust is part of what it is to...well, actually, it's part of what it is to simply [i]be[/i]. To think that anything with conscience thought doesn't lust is just stupid. ...Incedentally, this goes into my argument as to why dolphins are at least as intelelgent as humans. Dolphins are the only other animals on the planet who have sex for pleasure, not for mating purposes. -Pride: I again quote Brunching Shuttlecocks: "I'm not sure how this one works. Is plain old everyday pride sinful or do you have to get into the realm of hubris before you're in trouble? Do you go to hell for saying "this is a pretty tasty three-bean salad I've made, if I do say so myself," or do you have to say "why, I bet this is a better three-bean salad than GOD could make"? And what about self-esteem? My high school counselors were always pushing self-esteem on me. Were they pawns of the Adversary? So many questions."

Eh...so let me get this straight... I kill a person. Let's make it your mother/female guardian. You won't condem me? BTW, to Judge someone is to give them a fair trial. That is, a trial in which a arbiterory-type person (the Judge in most cases), who is neutral to the situation, listens to both sides of the argument, and then decides what to do. Judging does not necisrarly condem someone. I judge you to be...Christian. Doesn't mean I;m comdeming you [holds back any further comments on Christianity) And let's try to leave The Big Guy out of judgement calls. Even better, let's get back on topic

The line between judgement, stupidity, and what we [i]should[/i] do is very, very blurry in mine eyes.

Joe Pesci? Maybe. He's not a 'false idol', because I can point to idols made in his image that are real.

Yes, corruption is inevitable. There are only a few things in this world that are inevitable. Corruption, death...c'est la vie. Also, I doubt the Bible has any rules against creating your own idols and deities. It simply says "Thou shalt not worship false idols". If you don't worship them, then you're not in trouble. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to get down on my hands and knees and worship Pelor or St. Cuthbert or Nerull any time soon.

Keep this in mind: The way the game runs is up to the Dungeon Master. Or Game Master. Or Storyteller. Or whatever the person is being called. I know that it's perfectly possible to play a Vampire: The Masquerade chronicle where the point is redemption. I mean, vampires aren't inherently evil. It's not thier fault that someone thought that they were right for the Embrace. White Wolf left the option open for Golconda, which is a state of Vampirism where they don't have to worry about accidently killing someone, only have to feed once a week instead of once a night (and don't need nearly as much blood even then), and are no longer unholy, but rather hallowed. Or even a chronicle where the characters are supposed to find a way to become mortals again. And don't forget that White Wolf also has Hunter: The Reckoning, where you're a hunter and you're supposed to kill vampires, werewolves, mummies, etc. On the other hand, in D&D, a Dugneon master could run a game where everyone has to be an evil character, and do evil things to get to their ultimate goals. Such nwould be interesting if the DM wants to play this, then do another campaign set up on the idea that the (new) characters have to undo what their older characters did. More often then not, however, a DM who does that is just looking for a way to control out-of-control characters. Or just because they're really sick It depends on the person...not the game. The game is a thing, an idea, and is neither good nor bad. I quote Patamon when I say "Did you know that Light and Darkness are brothers? Darkness isn't bad, it's what you do with it that's bad."

Yeah. I bet you could find Christians who say it does

A peice of advice: DO NOT WATCH THE D&D MOVIE! It rots brain cells and is horribly acted. --- The default idea for the Dungeons and Dragons game is this: 1) The physical setting is about equivilant to that of Medieval Europe 2) Magic, both Arcane and Divine, is real. The basic assumption is that magic is not so rare that there are people who have never seen or heard of it before, but also not so common that it becomes everyday. 3) Arcane Magic is based upon summoning one's own inner power through A) Years of intense study and grueling work (in the case of a Wizard), B) Through an innate 'spark' within oneself (In the case of a Sorcerer), or C) through a little of both (in the case of a Bard) 4) Divine Magic is assumed to come through either A) A God, Gods(in the cases of Clerics) or through the force of Nature (in the case of Druids and Rangers) 5) There are the following basic races: Human, Elves, Half-elves, Halflings, Dwarves, Gnomes, and Half-Orcs. It is assumed that each one has it's own disticnt racial deity (except for humans, half-elves, and half-orcs) and it's own mythos. 6) There are MONSTERS who want to KILL people and the only people around who are willing, or even able, to stop them is YOU, the PLAYER CHARACTER. I don't really see anything which conflicts with Christianity. The Wizard, Sorcerer, and Bard all fall perfectly within the range. It's not like they've sold their souls. In the case of Clerics, generally the DM will allow one to make up a deity to worship, so a character can simple say that he worships God (Although if the character has any sense of style, he's use a differant name for God, such as Jehovah or Yahweh), choose two Domains which he feels God would have, and go around thinking everyone else was a 'pagan' and that the other clerics got thier powers from Satan. This Cleric will not be especially popular amongst the locals, and will face many chalanges throughout his life, but who knows? Once he reaches 6th level, he can gain the Leadership feat, and then start getting an army of followers. --- ALl of you will perish before my [i]+5 Keen Icy Burst Bane (Fire Elemental) scimitar[/i], "Firehater"

A bit of arbitration on my part here. I'm perfectly awear of the games section, but this leans slightly more towards opinions and discussions rather then advice and tips for games, so...I believe it belongs here, and anyway, there is no section for Pen-and-Paper Tabletop RPGs, which is what D&D is. --- I've heard repeatedly things which say how Dungeons and Dragons, the pen-and-paper tabletop Role-Playing-Game, is 'Devil Worship' and 'The spawn of Satan' and a bunch of other things. Never being one to pass up anything which deals with dragons or relgion, I looks it up on Yahoo! and found some sited dedicated to anti-D&D, basing them upon Christian grounds. Being not only a D&D player, but in fact a DM, my opinion on weather or not these grounds properly are based on Christian fact is kinda' biased. Basicly, the argument is this: "Dungeons and Dragons is a pagan thing, because characters go around worshipping Pagan gods, violating the first comandment, and generally being evil people, despite what thier 'alignment' says." To which my responce, as a DM, is "Only if the game-world uses pagan gods. The DM could just as easily incorperate the Christian relgion into the game world, or have no religion at all. This makes life harder for the DM, who must then explain where Evil clerics get thier powers from, but it is possible. The 'first commandment' is not violated, because it's simply [i]imagining[/i] that you are, and the people you kill are evil anyway and can only be stopped through a war. Finally, only an insane DM lets that happen, because then you could not have a class like the Paladin, who must not only be Lawful Good but also be chivilrous, just, and never knowingly associate with evil characters or characters which violate their code of honor, or else they loose thier Paladin abilties. In other words: A Paladin who drinks, wenches, and kills for no reason will no longer be able to cast divine spells, call upon their divine abilties, or in fact be anything but a normal fighter." --- What do you think? About this whole idea of "D&D corrupts Christians"?

Do you think man will survive? -**** no. But that's not a bad thing. I want to discuss the current global climate, Global warming, wars and rumors of wars. Escalating crime. Is it taking it's toll on Earth? And what about a nuclear showdown? -...I hate humanity... It seems as if us humans cannot keep this planet in order, we have dsomated precious forests, essentially killing off our oxygen supply, permeated the atmosphere with ugly smpog and smoke, the hole in the ozone is getting bigger, and it looks like we're about to fall into armageddon, wether it's the biblical armageddon or not is not what I'm debating here, it is the current world crisis. -It's almost a if we humans were made to destroy. So I put forth these questions to you. -Let's take a look-sees. Do you think there will be a year 2525? Do you think the Zager and Evans song of the same name is rining true to an extent? -Er...I never heard the song, What can we do, as a whole human race, to stem pollution, wars and other evil things. What can be done to stop this slowly increasing slide into self destruction. -Get Gorge W Bush out of office...that will certainly help... Do you think the Kyoto protocol should be enforced on every nation? do you think it would make a difference? -What is the Kyoto protocol? Is it pro-Earth, anti-war? If so then I support it. And is it possible, considering we cloned a sheep not too long ago, to reproduce ozone chemicals and place them in the hole like a giant bandaid? -Ha! A funny thought. And porbably not. The ozone layer, at least for the forseeable future, can only be repair through natural process. think carefully, These questions concern the future of your children and grandchildren. If the polar ice caps melt, then Overpopulation will really be an epidemic. -If the ice caps melt, then overpopulation will no longer be a problem, because a heck of a lot of the world's population will have died. What do you think? -I think Bush is an idiot, I think he should be removed from office, I think we humans are a destructive force, I think that humanity is doomed if it stays on it's current path, I think that war is bad, I hope a metorite of epic proportions hits the Earth.

1.) What thoughts or words come to mind when someone says, "Church" Hmmm...well, the very first thing that comes to mind is a monolithic, gothic structure with gray skies overhead and a red carpet leading to two great big wooden doors. This was an actual place, by the way. My aunt got married there. On the aforementioned cloudy day. After that I settle down and start thinking a bit more. One thought that comes to mind is "The Inquisition" and I automaticly think of three things: The thought of flesh comming off some poor man who is being burned at the stake, the thought of flesh comming off some poor woman who is being burned at the stake, and the musical number "The Inqusition" from "A History of the World: Part One". I also think of buildings with large interiors, and yet, not a single comfortable seat in the entire thing, and also far to many people, and not a single book, either, except for the (self proclaimed) "Good Book". Ladies and gentlemen, this is one book you CAN judge by it's leatherbound cover. It is boring, just like the cover of most Bible's I have seen, and it's full of death, just like how the cover of the book is, in fact, a dead animal. Especialy in the Old Testemet, which is mainly concerned with the Big Guy punishing group C for what group A did to group B. For example: Death of all the firstborns (Group C) for the Egyptians (Group A) not letting the Israelites (Group B) leave Egypt. 2.) Give two reasons why you don't go to church One is the uncomfrtableness of it. Like I said: Too many people, no comfortable seats, no good food, no good books, you're not allowed to talk, and you have to sit like this for an ENTIRE HOUR. Unless, of course, it's a Christian holiday. THEN YOU GET TO SIT LIKE THAT FOR THREE HOURS! Aren't you lucky! The second reason is most preachers I've run into. They just talk on...and on...and on...and on...in a single... long... monotone... sentance... constantly... praising... a... guy... who... has... not... shown... up... in... over... 2000... years... 3.) What qualities do you think a church needs to be a "good" church? Hmm...design my own Chruch? You're on. Let's see...gothic-style architecture. That means tall roofs, thin walls, large windows that let in a lot of light. However, rather then squared, the church is round, or at least decagonal. And from there it basicly takes on the aspects of ancient Greek temples. Lots of fun, partying, wine...oh, so much wine...lots of decadence...

I'm sorry, but there's just something about the idea of ancient egyptians with Japanese names fighting with monsters (or against them...haven't been watching the show much, so...) that I really like. But then having the 'game' be re-made into a card game is kind of...how should I put this... [SIZE=4]WRONG[/SIZE] Don't get me wrong. First off, I like Yami...or whatever the name of the cool Yugi is. I like his eyes. They're thin, but not so thin as to make him a bad guy. And I want his leather suit. The one with no sleeves? Black? And the chain that the puzzle is on. Although, not the puzzle itself. Just the chain. And I like the idea of seven (seven?) ancient artifact things called "Mellenium Such-and-Such". Sounds cool. And I like...well, okay, that's pretty much all I like. Oh well. Am I missing something deeper in the series that has made it so popular? Tell me.