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Actually I think her Japanese name is Bura, so technicly they haven't butchered is, as for some reason the L and R are very close in Japanese You never heard about that? Basicly, they try to say "election", thery end up saying "erection". Try to say "suplies", and end up with "suprise". So technicly, Bura could become "Bula" no problem, and for the sake of making no one want it to be pronounced "Buu-lah", the dub people added in an extra L. Now it's Buh-lah instead of Buu-lah

Because a direct translation of Japanese would result in this: "All your base are belong to us." When they really meant to say "We control all your bases." That's a line from a game in Japan. It did okay. So someone Japanese decided to translate the game into English and sell it in America. Unfortunately, we got a [i]direct[/i] translation. It's like how Japanese has few pronouns. Ever wonder why Tomoyo always says "Sakura" instead of "You" or "Your" or "You're" or "Her" or "She" in many CCS dubs? Anglo-saxons/Medditeraineans/Celtai are lazy, we wants simpler things. The Japanese, on the other hand, wanted a flowing and flowery language which I WANT TO LEARN but will never be able to because I can barely get a grip on SPANISH. Anyway, if you listen to a translated anything, some of the majesty will always be lost. I close with: "All your base are belong to us."

He's earned the title of [i]THE[/i] legendary Super Saiyin? With a name like Brolly? I'd of made it more along the lines of Kiimonomogue...wait, that sounds too Navajo. [thinks] Loki. Norse God of Discord, and no one has to worry about mistranslations...oh, wait, we do, L doesn't exist.. Okay, but it's set in stone: Roki in Japanese and Loki in English

[sewing seeds of discord in vain effort to do...something...] Who made DBZ? Probably not Toei, right? Regardless, Toei had pulled recorses away from many of it's shows, working on something secret or some **** like that. Regardless, the company that makes DBZ faces two options in this case. 1) If it is Toei, then there is no change whatsoever of ever seeing another Dragonball series again within a couple lifetimes unless Toriyama gets VERY desperate 2) If it is not Toei, then there is a small glimmer of hope, as other animation companies will now be seeking to boost up thier recorses on developing something just as big and grand...so fear the comming of what I'll call DBX, for it will Suck like nothing hath Sucked before. Too much effort will be put into it and it will scream "I AM COOL", which automaticly makes it not worth watching, i.e., The matrx: Reloaded

Youko Minamino: Your usage of pollitically correct names is somewhat annoying; however you may well be Japanese so I won't say anything. For those that aren't Japanese: Just use dub names, people, they tend to be shorter and sound better (Mr. Satan is funny, not intimidating) and it's not like it'll be the end of the world if we say them. Some exceptions can, of course, be made - Coolah instead of Cooler, for example. But "Freiza" makes me think "ice" while "Furiza" makes me think "Fuzzy". You tell me which is more intimidating: Ice, or fuz. Shenron. Ooh! I didn't use the technicly-correct Shin Leung! Fear me. On topic: Youko Minamoto basically had the right idea; the idea of female Saiyins not being able to go Super-Saiyin doesn't make genetic sense.

That this topic hasn't been closed already is amazing. Mine were always closed within the first 5 minutes and never really got any repplies. I envy you, Perfect Cell. Anyway, Cell. It's not so much due to power as it is intellegence and feeling. Cell felt no more remorse then Buu, but Buu had an excuse: he was unintelegent, barely able of speach. On the other hand, Cell was highly intellegent, and he still killed all those people without a second thought. Cell has cooler music, too. Imperfect and Perfect Cell's themes are great, especially when techno remixed. I downloaded the techno remix for the Perfect Cell theme; does anyone know where I can find the remix for the Imperfect Cell theme? PM me. Tried KaZaA lite, that doesn't work Then again...Buu had a few things going for him that I liked: 1) Kid Buu: He looked so evil 2) Possition: The way he held himself. he let his arms hang forward, his head would tilt to the side as he turned to look at you. 3) Wha-ha! : He never did this often enough. When he would lunge forward as Super Buu and go "Wha-ha!" in a really high-pitched voice that didn't fit him at all and yet was perfect. I think he did it all of two times; which depresses me

I dunno anything about Rain, though, and it'd be inappropriate at this time to introduce Tsisdu-Usti

The saxaphone part is towards the end. The rest of the time it's repetitive. download it yourself on KaZaA and see if you recognise it

Ren and Stimpy come to mind... Yeah, it's just a name change...what's the big deal? Plus, you can't have little kids watching a show with a character named "Bra". It's be like having a Japanese character named Baka.

It's not dark and demoic...I don't think. I'm trying to decide weather it's techno or blues. It has a saxaphone, that I know.

Fair enough. Anyway, one character I really want to get into this is Tsisdu-Usti, who's a hybrid descended from the Cherokee Native Americans. She's like a half-human, half-rabbit (Her name, in fact means "Little Rabbit" in Cherokee). I'll wait to introduce her, though

I think I got the spelling right... Anyway, on KaZaA I downloaded a song which i was lead to believe was the theme to Majin Buu. Which one, I don't know. But, it doesn't sound a thing like any theme to Majin Buu I know of. When i looked at in in RealOnePlayer, it called it "Super Butoden 3" Who is Butoden? Editor's Note: I bet my spelling is off...

1st one: 9/10. I've seen better, but I've seen a LOT worse as well. Most of the 'a lot worse' is my own work. 2nd one: 6/10. the head is to wide for the body.

While I'm not sure if this post actually belongs here, I'm not going to point that out. Oops. I did. Let's see...Female, for one thing. Tail is intact. Wild hair (of course). Has the ability to not only reach Super-Saiyajin, but SSj x2 as well. Not Ssj x3 or x4, though, 'cause those just look silly. Name based off of a fruit rather then a vegitable, simply because I don't know that many vegitable names.

Actually I was planning to make Danaté the protaganist, but I like what you've done with him a lot better. As for the past-lives things, I've stuck in that little loophole now and again. otherwise, if the Children's digimon were to die, then how could they even remember that they were ever Digi-Destined? It would be a bad idea, though, if they were to remember how they died in thier past lives, otherwise it might drive them insane, having to live through thier deaths over and over again. Oh, yeah, it's Danaté. Not Danté. Extra A in between the N and the T. 500 years of language blending has done that to the name. Oh, I should probably also include that Atraides is pronounced ah-TRAE-id-eez. In this, it's Greek in origin (in theory). In reality, it's the name of one of the Houses in Frank Herbert's [i]Dune[/i].

THE DIGITAL WORLD OF DIGIMON EPOCH Much of this is based on the Digital Worlds that I used for Neo Destined and Neo Tamers, so if you want to change this or scrap it altogether in the place of something new, go right ahead. There are eight distinct areas of the digital world: Mountain, Plains, Swamp, Ocean, City, Forest, Underworld, Desert. Each one takes up roughly the same ammount of space. There are also a two ?demiplanes? surrounding the Digital World: Paradisa and Inferna The Mountain area of the digital world is characterised by rolling hills evolving into large mountains towards the center. The centermost mountain, called the Skyshaper, is HUGE! Ten miles high. But, due to the way the digital world is set up, you can climb to the very top and still be able to breath alright, and there would be little (if any) change in tempeture. Digimon call this the Skyshaper Peakes The Plains area is dominated by rolling hils of knee-high (on a human) grass, colored golden. Many farming communities exist here. If you head north, you come across a vast tundra. The tundra is known as the Frozen Feild, the fertile area knows as the Golden Plains The swamp area, also called the Black Swamp, is fetid, large, and full of dangerous creatures. Some of the more powerful evil digimon come from the Swamp area, and there are also many other deadly creatures to be found. The Ocean is exactly that - an ocean. A big one. Called the Azure Sea, the ocean of the digital world extends downwards for uncounted miles and is dotted every now and then by islands. The largest cities in the digital world - Atlantis, Pacifica, and Oceana - are located on or under the water. Roanoke colony also occupies three islands in this sea, five miles off the coast of the main digital continant, Server. The City is something of a misleading term, there are pleanty of cities in the digital world. This area is completely mechanized - think of Corescant from Star Wars. It is more commonly called the Metle Empire The Forest is a vast, deep forest which has everything from pines to oaks to bamboos to palms. Navigation is very difficult. Depending on the area - jungle, bamboo forest, pine forest, etc - it has differant names. The largest area, the oak, maple, and thier like section, is called Rootshroud Forest, for the roots of the many trees cover the forest floor, making ground navigation difficult - why many digimon leap from tree to tree instead. The eldest known tree in the entire multiverse, Yggdrasil, can be found in Rootshroud The Underworld isn?t ?hell?. Oftentimes called the Underdark, instead, the Underworld is a vast network of caves and caverns beneath the surface of the Digital World. Dangerous and deadly creatures live here, and there are rumors of great, underground cities. The Desert area, known as the Great Desert, is a vast and blank area devoid of life in most areas. There are oasis, but they can rise and fall at the whim of the desert. Creatures here treat the desert with great respect, for they know that in an instant it can kill them all. Paradisa is the realm of Angelic digimon. It is like a smaller version of the Digital World, but everything there is brighter and more wholesom. The nine Sects of the Celestial Armada - Angels, Arch Angels, Powers, Principalities, Virtues, Graces, Ophanim, Cherubim, and Seraphim - make thier home here. Inferna is the home of demonic and diabolic digimon. It is like a smaller version of the Digital world, but everything there is darker and corrupted. The six Songs of the Nightmare Soldires - Minuettes, Boleroes, Seranades, Nocturnes, Requiems, and Preludes - make thier home here. The digital world was formed in the same manner as described in Digimon Tamers, but in a more realistic manner, so that it resembles Earth a lot more. DIGIMON Digimon are creatures of extremes, or absolute neutrality. They are either ecstatic or terminaly depressed, wrathful the likes of which a human cannot comprehend or so loving you can?t help but love them back, or absolutely, totally uncaring in every thing, or any number of myriad extremes. Digimon themselves come in any number of myriad forms. There are over a thousand known kinds, and new kinds form all the time. Digimon have souls, just like humans. however, while a new human soul is created with each baby born, digimon have only a finite number of souls. When a digimon dies, thier body simply drops dead, while thier soul goes on to create a new body. This is usually in the Primary Village - located in the very middle of the digital world - but exceptions have come about from time to time. A digimon?s body does not break up, like it does in 01, 02, 03, and 04. Rather, it simply becomes a lifeless corpse. While it does decompose faster then a human body (x2 as fast), the body can still be used as food. However there is no way to stop the decomposition process, so clothing cannot be made from a digimon?s fur, or something. The highest crime in the digital world is not killing, but preventing a digimon?s soul from being reborn. It?s unspeakably evil and even most demonic digimon do not contemplate doing such a thing. HUMANS Because of the way that planer travel works, the Digital World actually started forming five hundred years before computers were actually made. When this happened, humans from around the globe were sucked through faultering dimensional boundries and into the Digital World. Most of these humans were the colonists of Roanoke, but many were from other places. The Roanokeni, as digimon call them, set up camp on three islands in the Digital World. These islands were far removed from digimon. Whenever the digimon tried to make contact with the humans, the humans would attack the digimon and try to kill them. As such, digimon have left the Roanokeni alone. There was another group of humans, from the island of Maui, who appeared in digimon city one day. As they were thrust right into the middle of digimon society, rather then it?s fringes, they were much more accepting of digimon. The Mauiin, as digimon called them, set up a small kindgom for themselves, but it was destroyed about a hundred years ago by a digimon called BigHuhuloamon. Thus the only humans left are Roanokeni. Thier language has evolved in the past five hundred years, so that is is a confusing mix of many cultures, such as the Moors, the Dutch, the Greeks, the Cathayans, and the natives of the America continant. Thier religion is an interesting blend of Native animism with Cathayan Buddhism and Taoism and Moorish Islam, with a few remaining hints of Christianity (Which, in the face of two other powerful religions - Islam and Buddhism - has fallen somewhat to the wayside). The humans of Roanoke hate and fear digimon. However, recently they have been having problems. Problems which come in the form of either mothers giving birth to not babies, but eggs, which then hatch into half-human, half-digimon, and other people, typicly between the ages of 8 and 15, have begun to mutate into half-human, half-digimon. The Roanokeni have been killing those which this has been happening to, but it?s getting more and more frequent. HYBRIDS Hybrids can come about one of three ways: A human between the ages of 8 and 15 mutates into a hybrid in a very painful, and sometimes lethal process; or a human mother gives birth to an evolved child, in an egg, which then three days later hatches into a hybrid child; or a hybrid child is born to a human and a digimon parant in the same manner as the middle choice. Hybrids vary in specific appearance, but have a few common traits. They have four fingers and three toes; the toes being arranged in a tripod-like setup where two face forward and one face back. Thier ears become long and pointed, much like an elf?s. They gain some kind of feture extending from thier backbone, such as a tail or an inect-like abdomen. Thier hair either disapears entirely, or grows out to an incredably long length. The skin of the hip area, chest area (and corrosponding back area), hands, feet, lower arms, lower legs, and the spinal extension change. This change may be as simple as color and texture to as drastic as a partial exoskeleton. Eye color often changes. A hybrid may, of course, gain other fetures. For example, the hybrid Danaté Atraides has horns, claws, and tail blades. For those who mutate, they do so after a painful process that takes about three hours. As the body re-structres itself, the person will glow, but this glowing is not visible to human eyes unti the person is ready to transform. After the internal re-structuring, combing data with protines, physical changes happen, durring the time that the person is glrowing. The physical changes take only about a minute to complete, but this is the most painful part of the process. For those who were born as hybrids, there is no pain for the hybrid in the egg. It?s simply a normal birth (So, I can?t say that the mother feel no pain...but she feels no more pain then she would if she were giving birht to a normal human child). The new hybrid, no matter how they came about, has an attribute - Data, Virus, Vaccine, or Unknown - just like a digimon. Hybrids has special powers and qualities which match thier new form. For example, a hybrid which is very attuned to darkness (like Danaté, for example) would have powers over shadows, be able to see in absolute darkness, and be able to do other things which help it. To digimon, who often can?t tell the differace between two humans, even if they are of differant genders, hybrids look like humans. Hybrids are typicly accepted by the digimon community. While they are strange and new, new evolutions of digimon pop up all the time. Digimon are used to strange and new. To humans, who don?t bother to try and distinguish one digimon from another, hybrids look like digimon, and humans hate and fear digimon. Humans typicly will try to kill a hybrid on sight, if they have the means, or run away in fear if they don?t. The main story of Digimon Epoch focuses on hybrid characters. KA ANOR AND THE HETWAMON The major evil force of Digimon Epoch, that I was planning for, is Ka Anor, and his Hetwamon minions. Ka Anor is, in theory, the god of the Hetwan people. The Hetwamon are not humanoid digimon. Oh, no. While they walk on two legs, they resemble nothing so much as flies that use four of thier legs for arms instead. Thier wings are batlike, however, and they often drape them over themselves like cloaks. Hetwamon speak in whispery, fluttering voices devoid of emotion, even if they are feeling mirth or rage. Thier laughter sounds like a human choking. Ka Anor is known as the Eater of Gods or, more commonly, the God-Eater, because in Hetwamon legends, that's what he does. Eat gods. In reality, Ka Anor is not what he appears to be. Ths God-Eater has lead the Hetwamon on a campaign of conquest throughout the Digital World. he controls the Swamp area and a large portion of the City, and has taken control of the two largest surface cities on the Digital World, Datalyne and Manefraim. He knows of humans - knows of the Roanokens very, very personally - and his next target for conquest is Roanoke. Considering the might and power of a digimon compared to a human, Roanoke will be an easy victory that might not even produce ten Hetwamon casualties. Hetwamon are Champion digimon. Thier evolotutionary stages are: -Larvamon > Pupaemon > Maggomon > Hetwamon > JagerHetwamon* > ElderHetwamon The Hetwamon social structure is set up like an ant or bee hive, with a queen (a female ElderHetwamon) as the leader. There are a total of twenty female ElderHetwamon, each one right below Ka Anor in terms of power. Female Hetwamon have more power then male Hetwamon, both physicly and politicly. *Pronounced Yay-gar-Het-wah-mawn. Jager is german for "Armor"

I have to admit, I'm more then a bit biased about writing. Okay, I'll be blunt. I'm very nice aloud even if the person can't spell and can't write and I think he shouldn't be writing, because they obviously like writing and want to do it. [pause] This does not apply to you That was good! Really! I like this...I can see the future opening up widely before Raine. So many possibilities! I sound like I'm some idiot right now, but seriously. So many possibilities opening up. Oh, yeah, I wrote up a breif thingy on what I think this Digital World should be like; feel free to edit it as ye wish. I think it may be too big to fit in this post now that I've written everything I have, so it'll be in the next post, and hopefully the ALMIGHTY MODERATING GODS will allow this exception to the RULES OF SPAMINESS

That's an interesting question, actually. Toriyama has said "None of the female saiyins can go super-saiyin", but there's a problem in what he EXACTLY meant. Did he mean "Neither Pan nor Bra can go Super-Saiyin"? that's what I believe, which simply may mean that they haven't met the prequistes yet. Or did he mean "No female of the Saiyin race can reach super-Saiyin"? That's what most people believe. However, this doesn't make genetic sense. At all. In a million years. Even a billion or a trillion. I mean, genetics isn't discriminatory the way humans are. It designed males and females more or less equally. I mean, yes, males were meant for war and fighting and females were not... But a female can be stronger then a male, but it takes longer to get that strong then for a male, and even then, the male will have stronger upper-body strength, whilst most of the female's strength will be in the lower body (legs) Think of things this way. Male Saiyins, designed for war, can become Oozarus and Super-Saiyins easier then female Saiyins, but a female could still do it. The prequiste is just harder to reach. Imagine, for example, that to become a super-saiyin you needed a power level of at least 1 million, plus an incredable, MASSIVE need to get the power. (Which is actually pretty close to what you need) For females, then, it might be that you need a power level of at least TWO million, plus a MEGALITHIC, END-OF-THE-WORLD-AS-WE-KNOW-IT-AND-YOU-DO-[i]NOT[/i]-FEEL-FINE need. **** On the plus side, on KaZaA you can download a pic of Pan which someone re-colored so that she had aqua eyes and golden hair, like a super-saiyin, and you could always write a fic that's actually about her reaching super saiyin if ye wish. **** Oh, yeah, almost forgot: Toriyama didn't work on GT. He did character designs, but that's it (stupid git - you don't give away your story even if you hate it). So, because of this, he doesn't really Final Authority anymore, like he did with DragonBall and DBZ. What he says, goes for DragonBall and DBZ. He could contridict himself by saying that Freiza had a power level of 1 and Goku had a power level of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 and we couldn't say "No, your wrong", because it's his, and he made it, and he has final authority. But, like I said, he only did character designs in GT. So he doesn't have Final Authority. That goes to someone else. >>>>>>EDIT

[Summons up Faith and points at the Chrome Digizoid sheild, then gets down to buisness as Faith hacks through it easily] TAMER_ZACH: The idea is for each person to write...I dunno, three episodes at a time, and then someone else can do it. While I suppose you could start writing now, there's a lot of information lacking thus far. Not how I said 'first part of first episode'. I'm not in charge of this whole gig, though. YOU are, remember? Thou hast wrought it, in thy post. Mayhaps thou should takith chargen of thine own idea? DEVIDRAMON: [Chrome Digizoid sheild and Faith are both now gone] Yeah, you are. Remember? Me, you, Megami, and Chaotimon. And I like how it's shaping up, too, though I should probably go into deeper detail with the world I'm presenting as a base, and with the digimon, etc. Regardless, you don't have to worry about a hybrid cutting though your chrome digizoid anymore, 'cause I've significantly toned down thier power.

It's odd. Hell isn't like that. Hell has been described, in the Bible and Torah, as one of two things: 1) A lake of fire, where you burn for eternity 2) Hell isn't a place, but a state of existance, eternally seperated from God and His Almighty-ness (Or So Close To Almighty As To Have No Equals-ness. Por Favor. En Inglés) Plus it's sick, some of the tortures. To to Brunchingshuttlecocks.com (I think that's right), go to "The Ratings", and look at Danté's Inferno Torture ratings.

Editor's Notes: 1) First of all, like I've said, if anyone here is to make a Digimon 05, then it's got to be organised. Very organised. Not the collected bunch of posts that Tamer_Zach is suggesting. While that is a good idea for an RPG or a Digiparty, it won't work if we want to make an entirely new season 2) "Digimon Epoch" is just a working title; it can be changed very easily. 3) Tamer_Zach and Devidramon seem to like this idea; that's why I've taken the liberty to post this. It's to help set the background for a possible 05 of our own. We're going to need a background 4) This is a suggestion. That's it. I'm not saying "DO THIS, BECAUSE I AM BEST". I am not. While I HAVE been called one of the Four Gods of Writing on occasion (The other three being individuals known as Devidramon, Megami Soyuu, and Chaos X), I feel undeserving of this reverand title. This is a suggestion. Nothing more. ********************************************************************** Digimon Zero Five: Digimon Epoch Episode One: In the Begining... ?I?m told we don?t belong here. And I can?t help but think: Yes, we do. ?I mean, I know the stories, how we got here. I know that five hundred years ago, doorways opened up between worlds, and us, we - the people of Roanoke Colony - were sucked through to this world. I know all about how we weren?t the only ones, how others came through with us. Our language shows our mixing: English, Native, Moorish, Cathayan, Spanish, French, Dutch, Greek, countless others. ?And I know of the monsters. I?ve never seen one myself - no one has for over a hundred years - but I know that they are out there, in the encharted wilderness of the mainland. Large, powerful, speaking monsters. It is the common knoledge that they may one day sweep over us, or try to at least, that unites us all together. ?But this place, these three islands, have become our home. We are born here, we live here, we die here. We work and we play here. How can anyone - even the oldest of us - claim this as not our home? It is where we were born, even the eldest, even the eldest of the eldest! I know of the stories that the first ones passed down, the stories of Beijing and Istanbul and Athens and London and Madrid...and I frankly don?t care much about them. Roanoke is my home. I wouldn?t leave it for anything. ?I think.? -From the journal of Danaté Atraides, found after he left Roanoke

No... The Greeks influenced a nomadic group of people, who I believe were called the Eucretians, in many things, inclduing language. The Eucretians eventually migrated to Italy, upon which time they had become the Latins, as they spoke Latin, which had evolved from Greek. For several years most of the powerful Latin tribes were in northern Italy, with a few smallers ones in central Italy, which probably traded with the Greek city-states which were on the coastlines of Southern Italy. Eventually, a few of the central Latin towns merged together to form Rome, upon which time the Romans were born unot this Earth.

I think at the end of the first part of the DBZ manga, Toriyama actually has a little note asking if anyone recognised the name. It's there in English version (which is translated directly from japanese and not altered, except to flip the pages around so that you read it from left to right)

I think they managed to do eight because they gave each character an 'episode of thier own', where you got an intimate look at how they act. Especially durring the Devimon saga, when Devimon splits them up. Hikari never really got one of those, though, did she? Poor her. I think they could have more writters then just three, but certainly no more then six or seven. And, like I said, six characters total, weather they be humans, digimon, or some combonation of the two. If you want to develop all the characters, that is. If you simply want to develop the humans and have the digimon as things which are conviniantly there (like in 01, which is probably how they managed to do the stuff they did), then you could have eight humans and as many digimon, and just ignore the digimon character developement.

Actually, both are based off of Buddhist myth: Son Goku was a monkey demon imprisoned in a rock by the Bodhavisata (SP) for being too violent. he had a magical power pole, and could ride around on a cloud. He was released from his imprisonment by the Bodhavisata so that he could protect this T'ang Buddhist monk. Unfortunately, along the way, the monk was captured by Gyumaoh (SP), a powerful demon lord. Gyumaoh wanted to eat the flesh of the T'ang monk so that he could remain young forever, as apparantly that's what happens if you eat a T'ang monk's flesh. Son Goku, as well as a pig demon and water demon, had to defeat Gyumaoh in order to reclaim the T'ang monk so thqat she could continue to spread the Buddhist scriptures. The water demon was defeated after a pitched battle, as was the pig demon, but Son Goku defeated Gyumaoh with his magical extendo-staff. It's in Love Hina. if you read past the jokes you can actually learn the legend