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Actaully, they call it 'the greatest action cartoon ever' because it kind of is. All action. no drama, no plot, just all action. in theory, anyway. Plus, I guess they think that 63 million fans can't be wrong. In fact, that was in a DBZ commercial before. "63 million fans can't be wrong! 39 new episodes of Dragon Ball Z! Only Toonami." Plus, give Toonami it's due credit. Without it, would you even know that DBZ existed? ... Well, if you used to watch it when it aired on UPN, then yes, you would. But otherwise...probably not As for weather or not I've seen the Cell saga...I have, after a fassion. I've seen Androids, Imperfect Cell, and Cell sagas. I'm waiting for the Cell Games to come out in a box set before moving on to World Tornement, then the Buus. Speaking of which...which saga do you think more people have forgotten: the Garlic Saga, or the...I dunno what they call it. The one where Goku is in a tournement in Otherworld and fights Pikehan and stuff.

I like the show merely for interesting fighting sceans. There is no story and no plot. The closest they ever came was durring the Androids/Cell saga, which was the culmenation of everything Toriyama had done and was very likely supposed to be the last season. Then someone offered them money to do Buu.

They're re-staring with the Namek saga? Coolio. More Freiza. Anyway, they're actually doing it because they need to sort out a whole list of new stuff to do...plus they finished DBZ, remember? So they're starting with Namek, but if I know correctly, if they're going to do anything new, they'll start running it right after the Freiza saga

I always thought they were called Icejin. A friend said they were the Glacians. I think I may have coined 'Icejin' myself but I'm probably wrong. Changelings actually makes sense for a race name: They have five forms that we know of (see bellow), and an annoying tendancy to come back with machine parts. Icejin forms: Midget Form Demon Form "Aliens" Rip-off Form Mad Monkey Form 100% Power (AKA Football) Form Although, take a look at the feet of, say, an iguana some time. Freiza's feet look like that.

After waiting for quite some time, on the order of 10 or so hours, KaZaA lite is almost done downloading the 12th DBZ movie, "The Rebirth of Fusion". Unfortunately, I have no garuntee that this will be subbed, and I know for a fact that it's not dubbed. Therefor, can someone please tell me: 1) The name of the main evil bad-guy person dude thing 2) Why Goku and Vegeta appear to be in the land of spike bombs and floating jellybeans. 3) Why both Vegeta and Goku are dead 4) The basic outline I realise that I could get this at a DBZ website...however, thier synopsi are bland, boring, and not detailed enough. ... Oh, yes, and could someone tell me the name of the first movie with Brolly in it? ---------------------------- Well, that?s 53 minutes and 46 seconds of my life that I want back. I am reffering, of course, to the 12th Dragonball Z movie, ?The Rebirth of Fusion?. I feel that it is my duty, as a good person, to warn all of you people out there to not watch this movie. Ever. Even if payed money. Well, okay, if payed money to watch it, then watch it. But otherwise...no. Before I begin this review, let me state two things: If every episode of undubbed DBZ runs like this movie, then the dub of DBZ is A GIFT FROM THE LORD ALMIGHTY, because apparantly my father, despite his moment of bigotry, was right: The Japanese will watch anything. Two: Americans may not be as good with character developement or animation...but at least we always have better voice actors and a SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE music score. I know animes are typically low-budget, but surely they can afford a descent electric pianist to do the score. Also, before I continue: Due to my knowledge of them, and my lack of origional version names, I will be using all dub names. Now. This movie starts out as another normal day in the Afterlife...or Otherworld...or Afterworld...or whatever you want to call it. Goku and Pikon have apparantly decided to have another match. I was under the impression that this tournement only happens once every 500 years or so, but apparantly I was wrong. Goku beats some guy named Frog, and Pikon has fun thrashing around someone else. Then they start fighting each other, ?cause that?s what you do in a fight. Whee... Now, meanwhile, King Yami is judgeing souls. He does that for a living, but I gather that the pay for people who work for him sucks. Some oni named Tank is supposed to clean out the filter which washes the sins off of dead people?s souls. Fair enough, it?s what he does for a living. Now, apparantly, there was some demon lord thing named Janenba. Despite being an oni, he was washed. Why? We don?t know. As far as I can tell, Janenba has no reason to even exist other then to simply star in this movie. But the darkness and evilness came off of him, and right now I suppose he?s kicking back and drinking a coolata in Heaven. However, his evilness and darkness and general nastiness ended up on Tank, and he was essentially reborn. His rebirth has some nasty effects on Otherworld, apparantly. Janenba, in his Evil Dough Boy form, turns all of Otherworld into a land of Jellybeans. Floating Jellybeans. He uses these as weapons. FEAR THE BEANS! Naturally, Goku and Pikon seek to fix all of this. Oh, his rebirth also brings all dead people back to life on Earth. In fact, anything that?s died. Freiza and the Ginyu force even show up. But not anyone else. Apparantly Freiza was the only evil guy bored enough to seek revenge. Anyway, on the main plotline, Janenba (Played by the Pilsbury Dough Boy) fights Goku. Janenba shoots energy, warps his hands around, and does other stuff. Goku is pummeled for a little bit, before becomeing a Super-Super-Super Saiyin, more commonly known as a Super Saiyin x3. Eyebrowless Goku destroys Dough boy Janenba, only to have him pull a Majin Buu and turn into DOOM and GLOOM and GENERAL NASTINESS Janenba, which we?ll call DGGN Janenba. DGGN Janenba has a big *** sword. He kills Goku for a little bit, before Vegeta randomly shows up. he?s dead too, not that we have any clue why. Vegeta fights DGGN Janenba. DGGN Jenenba fights back. Vegeta, as usual, cannot have a moment of glory, and fails. Goku and him fly away into the Land of Spike Bombs, whereupon Goku reveals the secret of Fusion to Vegeta. See bellow on a comment relating to this. Regardless, Vegeta and Goku fuse, after a fassion, and become this really short and fat version of Gogeta. This version of Gogeta fights DGGN Janenba, and surprisingly actually makes some headway. That personally sickens me. After unfusing, Goku and Vegeta flee some more. They?re about to Fuse again, when DGGN Janenba shows up randomly. But luckly, so does Pikon! Randomness for the whole family. Pikon buys them enough time to fuse again, although I note with some dismay that Pikon doesn?t die. Toriyama really hates killing his characters permenantly. The new version of Vegtio - the real version - spends perhaps thirty seconds fighting DGGN Janenba, before killing him. DGGN Janenba screams the most boring and emotionless death wail ever - one which did not fit the way he was dieing, all sparkly and dissapating and stuff - and Tank re-apears, then flees from Gogeta. On Earth, meanwhile... Freiza shows up. I must say, out of this entire thing, I am pleased with only two voice actors, and one of them is whoever does Freiza - although, considering the entire cast of actors, that truely isn?t saying much. Freiza?s voice actor sucks, it?s just better then some of the others in this movie. Freiza doesn?t even get the glory of being thrashed, though - one punch from Gohan, and he dies. Ugh. Very sad, especially seeing as he?s the only enemy in DBZ who ever actually succeaded in killing Goku. No - Piccolo does not count, he was a good guy at the time and was striking at Raditz. And Goku killed himself when he was facing Cell. Oh, yes, Trunks and Goten fight Hitler and the rest of the Third Reich. I, personally, find it amazing that Hitler boths speaks Japanese, and speaks it without any trace of a German accent. Again: Ugh. The only case of pure evil in history deserves better then this. It should be noted that, apparantly, the Dead have bad animators. Black lines are around thier entire frames. Now, I have a question: When does this movie take place? Both Vegeta and Goku are dead. But, no where in the DBZ series where they ever both dead at the same time. Next, Trunks and Goten know how to fuse, showing us that this is likely after the Buu saga. But, Goku has to explain fusion to Vegeta, marking it as taking place before the Buu saga. Also, further adding to the confusion: All of the movies - except for the first one - are supposed to not tie into the series. However at the very end, there is a monologue by a few people, inlucing Goku. It was not subtitled, but I clearly heared ?Majin Buu?. Furthermore, Gohan goes into the guise of the Great Saiyaman in this, but I have come to understand that he gave up on that durring the World Tornement saga, leading us to believe that this was before the Buu cycle. But, durring the fight with Daburah, Vegeta remarks the Gohan is less powerful then when he faced Cell, meaning that Freiza should have been a chalange, not a one-hit kill. Finally, Shin Leung (the only name which I willl spell in it?s origional form - Shin Leung is the politically correct spelling of Shenron) is summoned, and his size and power and big...horns...amaze Videl. But, durring the Buu saga, she sees him, does she not? So why is she amazed so much this time? Confusion ensues. I would like to take this time to note that Shin Leung is like a Star Destroyer: He never ends. There is a place online where a guy called the Self Made Critic rates movies. He rates on a scale he calls Babylons. Zero Babylons signifies the pit of all movies. Five Babylons is reserved for anything with a talking pig or a Lightsaber. This movie gets 1 and 1/5 Babylons. Why that? Because DGGN Janenba had some pretty cool fights sceans (that?s the 1/5 of a Babylon) and Freiza was in it (that?s the 1 Babylon). * * * Title: Dragon Ball Z Movie 12: the Rebirth of Fusion. Directed By: Akira Toriyama, I assume. Starring: Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Videl, the Pilsbury Dough Boy on a bad dough day, and Freiza?s second-cousin twice removed on his mother?s side in his second form as DGGN Janenba*. Also staring North Kai, South Kai, East Kai, West Kai, Grand Kai, Freiza, Hercule, The Milk Force, the Third Reich, a bunch of demons, Tokugawa?s army, Romeo and Juliet, a guy without an eye, the Deadites, and your great-great-great grandmother. *Or perhaps Cell?s brother-in-law. Really, the designs for DGGN Janenba were quite obviously based off of either Freiza?s second form, or Cell?s first/final. Weather this is conscience or subconscience, I don?t know, but it does nothing to improve the fact that he says nothing. Really, though, from the music vid I watched which pulled sceans from this (?In the End? by Linkin Park, the vid was done by someone calling himself Dark Kamui), I expected sooo much more. It?s almost enough to make me not want to watch the first Brolly movie.

Yeah, but here's the thing: Cell was [i]grown[/i], while the Androids were [i]made[/i]. Cell has no mechanical parts. But, judging from what Sixteen's head looked like when smashed open, I think it's safe to assume that he's mechanoid. I mean, I figured that the Androids work like T-800s from the [i]Terminator[/i] 'verse: Biological tissure over a mechanical endoskeleton. But we've seen inside of Cell, and there isn't any mechanoid parts. He's simply living tissue over...more living tissue. ... as long as I'm on the subject of Terminators, I'm angry at them for a minor, minor plot discrepancy. Arnold plays a Terminator. He is, however, a T-800 (I know this based on the fact that it's said in the first movie, the second movie, and the video game based off the second movie). The mechanical skeletons are T-600s. The 'liquid metal' (Which is impossible, so I imagine that it's really nanites) is a more advanced T-1000. And in the most recent movie, there's the prototype T-X. However, in T3, he calls himself a T-101. This has me PISSED for two reasons: One, it goes against the movies, and two, Terminator series run in even-numbered, increasing by 200 each time. So, there is a T-200, a T-400, and a T-600. but there is no T-700, or T-100. And certainly not a T-101.

Crisis Analogy: Kinda'...but then you remember the power of that kid and the fact that he's a hybrid. So it's not so funny any more. Freiza is actually more reptile-like then monkey-like. In fact, he's called "A reptile-like shapeshifter" at the DBZ homepage. I mean, look at his other three forms. Doesn't look monkeylike then. Oh, yes, two more things: 1) Why does Brolly (Saiyin) look nothing like Brolly (Super-Saiyin)? Brolly (Saiyin) looks cool. Very cool. I wish I could have my hair like that and he actually looks seriously threatening, too. Brolly (Spuer-Saiyin) just looks silly. Too much muscle for me to ever take him seriously. As a general rule in anime, the most muscle an opponent has, the less deadly they actually are. 2) If Cell was created biologically by cross-cloning some cells of differant fighters then how is he an android?

Go to Suncoast Video or something; there should be a magazine with fat Buu drawn on the cover. It was in one of those. On the inside cover, it listed a bunch of power levels. it said that, while Goku was fighting Freiza as a Super Saiyin, his power level was 15,000,000. And Freiza, at 100% power, was 12,000,000. The Pan/Bra idea you have is probably the truest. And saddest. At least with genetics there's a good excuse... Anyway, I think he did. he did fall into some lava, and when last I checked, that was somewhat deadly even to a Super-Saiyin. They had an entire episode devoted half to the Dragonballs and half to Freiza toying with Gohan. Then (if memory serves...), big yellow flash after the wish with Shenron is made, and Goku comes out of the lava. Then again, I have a way of remembering things that never happened

That's actually a good question; what happened there?

Eh. It's not real enough for me, though. I know, I know - it's an anime. but I generally like a degree of realism. Cell was poorly designed if he's supposed to be 'perfect', and that's not something someone should overlook. Plus in a lot of early drawings of Perfect Cell, his nose lookes a bit big. Just like how SSj 2 Vegeta's early designs look silly - look at his hair! Oh, you can have villains people like. Everyone loves Artemis Entreri or Unicron. Unicron...mm....now that was a villain.

DBZ isn't actually a good example of anime, quite the opposite in fact. It has little to do with characters and more to "okay, how much destruction can we unleash THIS time?". So it wouldn't be the end of anime as we know it. The thing about animes is that most of them have low budgets, as compared to American cartoons. so, more effort is put into character developement and less into flashy sequences. Dragon Ball Z, however, has no character developement to speak of. The best they have is Gohan, he's actually done pretty well but everyone else is kinda' sucky in that department. Prime examples of [i]good[/i] anime series - lots of character developement - would be Card Captor Sakura, Digimon Tamers, most of the Gundum series (Probably the best anime series of all time), and possibly Ruroni Kenshin. Good examples in movies would be Blue Sub No. 6, Miyazaki's Spirited Away, and Princess Mononoke. Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and Dragonball GT, while they are fun to watch, have little in the way of plot or story, and could just as easily have been an American cartoon. On the flip side, Batman: Beyond would have made a great anime. Most of it's designers are Japanese, so they know what they're doing. Excelent character developement P.S. They're also doing a Neon Genesis: Evangelion movie. However this has the OK of Anno, and he says it's good, so we can expect a lot of depression.

Such as the fact that there's no way that Mr. Satan could be translated to Hurcule. Unless Japanese is more complex then I thought...

All things considered, anything can be done well of handled properly. Remember, Digimon works on the idea of infinite realities (Ghennai said so). So, with infinite realities, there are infinite possibilities. Therefor anything can be crossed into Digimon...with enough time and effort. For example: A virus from the Digital World gets into the Matrix. Not much of a problem, but then it gets into Zion's computers as well. Meanwhile the Matrix has learned of the idea of other universes after tracing the origion of this virus. Therefor it begins expanding outwards: Infinitely more humans to use as batteries. Zion's computers are breaking down as the Matrix uses it's agents to capture and contain the virus (really a digimon), and then use it to expan outwards. It's probably a good idea, however, to leave the Digi-destined out of this fic, unless you're truely inventive. Say, the Digi-destined learn of the invasion somehow, and go there to stop it, only to run across computerised beings that can bend digital reality to thier will: the Agents. Tougher fight then anything they've ever faced before. Zion's people have meanwhile gone to the Digital World in an effort to block off the Matrix's expansion, because through the Digital World, all realities can be reached. The Digi-Destined meet up with Zion's people at some point. As the Digital World is slowly converted from binary to Quantum, the Zionists and the Digi-destined have a hard road ahead of them, but they have a plan: With the Agents busy in the Digital World, the Matrix is more or less unguarded. Using Vamdemon's castle, they procead to warp to the Maxtrix's Earth, and the Digimon attack the Metacortex building with the Zionists while the Digi-destined are hooked up to the Matrix. Unfortunately, some Squiddies some across the Zionist ship, so the humans, including the Digi-destined, have to make a run for it, leaving the Digimon trapped in the Digital World. They are introduced to thier asses by the Agents when they come back, and have thier asses handled to them. Fortunatly the Zionist ship outruns the Squiddies and the humans are plugged back in. The Zionists distract the Agents while the Digi-destined use thier newfound powers (them being in a world were reality is thier plaything) to give thier digimon a serious upboost. WHile the digimon now distract the agents, the Zionists plant bombs all over the Metacortex building, and make it go 'kabloee'. Not too difficult, is it? But it requires a whole lot of time and effort, and plus, you have to take into account that the Digital World and Matrix World that you're using are not the ones shown in the movies and on TV, but alternate ones. Infinite possibilities...

Oh, gods, not again... okay, before I post, let me explain. There may appear, above this post, another post of mine. This is double-posting. However, read that post. It says that I came back to edit that post. however at this moment I cannot see that post for some reason; the last post on this page is by OtakuSennen as far as I can see. I don't know why this is happening. It happened a few times before, curiously enough always in this forum. Anyway...I am sorry, yadda yadda yadda, etc, but it is really and truely not my fault. On the other hand, I may be going mad. *** This will probably take place EARLY in DBZ. Such as, the DBZ movie. the FIRST one. Or not. They might make Freiza come into it for shits and giggles. Anyway... first off hair. They'll take liberties. Goku, Vegeta, and crew will have shorter hair. They'll just make it so that the hair is pretty messy. Bulma will not have entirely blue hair, probably just streaks. if that. Secondly, energy attacks. This poses no problem. Thirdly, transformations. This may pose some problems, as it would look silly. Therefor, they'll likely take some liberties. Extreme liberties. As in, make a Super Saiyin look like a Saiyin x4. However they should do a descent enough job. Fourthly, flying. Not a problem. Fifthly, fighting speed. Again, liberties will be taken. It will be done in Matrix style. Sixthly, acting. Keanu Reeves is an idiot but can act serious despite his idiocy, much like Goku, so he really isn't as bad a choice as you think he is. Vinny is too tall to play Vegeta, but they may take liberties and/or do some editing. They'd pull in a random kid to play Gohan, some chick to play Bulma, and pull in some nameless actors to play Piccolo, Tien, Krillen, etc. Actually...Vinny could play Nappa. Shenron will be voiced by Sean Connery. Shut up, he will. SHUT UP, do NOT INSULT The Sean The story will be based around getting the Dragonballs, not the comming of the Saiyins or the like. They might chuck in Freiza as someone who wants the Dragonballs, but unlikely, they'll probably instead choose to make Vegeta the opponent, or come up with someone compleately new. They won't toss in the Androids or Cell; they have a long and complex backstory that's too big to put into a movie. Vegeta and Freiza are simple: "I'm really powerful. I wan the Dragonballs. Grr. Arg." Oh, forgot to mention: Freiza will come to Earth, rather then having the Z Warriors go to Namek. Personally, I would have made a Dragonball movie first, or something.

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Well, no. Buu has the slight advantage of being more-or-less unintelegent. While he was Super Buu 2 and 3, he had Trunks, who is very arrogant, Goten, who's somewhat careless, and Piccolo, whome we know from past experiances is very intelegent but also is a bit too sure of his power sometimes. So anything whcih Buu did that could be considered 'arrogant' was actually just one of those three. As Super Buu 1, he was just same old Buu with a differant body. As Fat Buu, he was childish and playful, so the dancing around can be expected. As Kid Buu, he was okay. he played around sometimes but mostly just wanted to kill people - remember, he destroyed any planet that had people with abnormally strong spirits (i.e., high power levels) to eliminate the threat. Cell was much smarter then Buu, though. He should have been able to come up with this. If he was "Perfect in mind", then he would not be arrogant. He would be Vader with energy attacks instead of a Lightstaber. Or Lord Voldemon (Quote: "You have gotten in my way for the last time, Potter. AVADA KAEDAV-oomph!"). They could also still have a show. Trust me; I kill my characters swiftly all the time and I still have fics and novels. It's not like they had a whole bunch of people that they desperately needed, DBZ had too many characters. THe spare ones that one could have killed were: Tien, Choutzu, Yamcha, and Trunks. In fact, that would have been perfect. Trunks should have been killed. Brilliant! Toriyama really isn't all he's cracked up to be if he's so attached to his characters that he can't even keep them dead

Genetics are so fundementally basic that they apply to all living things. We're all just acid and protiens, after all. Even the Saiyins. They just have denser bodies, so they can stand more punishment, and the ability to access [i]Ki[/i] energy easier and faster then humans, and also the ability to focus that energy into more varied attacks. Super-Saiyin doesn't give a Saiyin new powers. it just upgrades the existing ones. The exception could be Super Saiyin x4, as I haven't seen that in action, but to the best of my knowledge all going to Super-Saiyin does is upgrade your power. Something like x4 your origional power level per SSj level, or something. Maybe a bit more. If Goku went from under 1,000,000, then durring the battle with Freiza, jumped to 15,000,000, something else is going on. unfortunately I don't know his exact power level before going SSj for the first time, but if it was 180,000 or so when facing Ginyu, there's no way it could have jumped to over 1,000,000 based simply on one defeat (Everyone remember that Saiyins get more powerful each time they are beaten). By the way, those numbers are from official sorces. Freiza had a maximum power level of 12,000,000, and Goku's at that time was 15,000,000. And Goku still almost lost - in fact, he did die, but then the nifty Dragonballs brought him back along with the Namekians and Vegeta. Imagine if thier power levels were equal...

Depends on the nature of the crossover. The Matrix with Digimon or .hack//sign (or Dark, or the other one)? Yu Yu Hakusho with Card Captor Sakura? I suppose those would work. Star Trek with X-Men is to be left alone, however. Although, i prefer straight and pure fics

Yeah, but it's so BORING. You have have a villain without arrogance. You'd figure that sooner or later Toriyama would have thrown one in that wasn't arrogant. Quellmon. Final boss of my megafic, [i]Neo Destined[/i]. he wasn't the least bit arrogant - he had seen his other seven comrades fall in battle, so he realised he had a slim chance. And Vader. Classic villain, not a hint of arrogance on him. You don't need arrogance to make a villain. Cell would have much cooler, in my opinion, if he was more cold and calculating, and didn't take uneccisary risks, just finished the job quickly and efficiantly.

I just remember that when he was Imperfect Cell 2, he commented on how if he reached perfection he would be perfect in strength, speed, and mind. But he's arrogant to the extreme, which is a definate sign of weakness. Is this a dubbing mistake or is there some other explenation?

Krillen, Krillen, Krillen. Tell me, does it sound like Kril-ihn or kril-ehn. Actually, depending on who's saying it, both. Roshi says "Krillin". Goku, young or old, says "Krillen". I'll need to wait for an episode with his name in it's title for me to get a fix on that (The only time I've seen his name spelled out was when androids 19 and 20 were analyzing him, but it said "Kururin", so I don't have a dub spelling yet)

Oh, for crying out loud...! FUNImation did NOT slaughter DBZ! It has done...NOTHING! Other then translate it! But in translation, some of the majesty HAS to be lost!! Or would you rather hear Goku, in a painfully high-pitched voice, say "Majin Buu stronger is so much enemy face before I have"?! Now, on topic. This will probably take place EARLY in DBZ. Such as, the DBZ movie. the FIRST one. Or not. They might make Freiza come into it for shits and giggles. Anyway... first off hair. They'll take liberties. Goku, Vegeta, and crew will have shorter hair. They'll just make it so that the hair is pretty messy. Bulma will not have entirely blue hair, probably just streaks. Secondly, energy attacks. This poses no problem. Thirdly, transformations. This may pose some problems, as it would look silly. Therefor, they'll likely take some liberties. Extreme liberties. As in, make a Super Saiyin look like a Saiyin x4. However they should do a descent enough job. Fourthly, flying. Not a problem. Fifthly, fighting speed. Again, liberties will be taken. It will be done in Matrix style. Sixthly, acting. Keanu Reeves is an idiot but can act serious despite his idiocy, much like Goku, so he really isn't as bad a choice as you think he is. Vinny is too tall to play Vegeta, but they may take liberties and/or do some editing. They'd pull in a random kid to play Gohan, some chick to play Bulma, and pull in some nameless actors to play Piccolo, Tien, Krillen, etc. Actually...Vinny could play Nappa. Shenron will be voiced by Sean Connery. Shut up, he will. SHUT UP, do NOT INSULT [u][i][COLOR=crimson][SIZE=4]The Sean[/SIZE][/COLOR][/i][/u] The story will be based around getting the Dragonballs, not the comming of the Saiyins or the like. They might chuck in Freiza as someone who wants the Dragonballs, but unlikely, they'll probably instead choose to make Vegeta the opponent.

Oh my god...[i]Tylomon[/i]...it's a transformer! The part with the mad lifeboat was made so much more fun in my mind since I saw [i]Treasure Planet[/i]. Can't wait for more Get you're *** over to the digi-lab, though, and then travel to our new place so that you can respond to Neo Tamers: Reboot.

Vegeta: I've ridden... [pauses and remembers what he's "ridden". Heheheheh] Vegeta: Well, it's not important what I've ridden, they were just faster then this thing!

Read my post again a little more carefully, Seppy.