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[QUOTE=Chabichou][COLOR=#004a6f]"It's fundamental to hate jews"? :eek: Sorry, but what source are you getting this garbage information from? The Quran mentions many tribes and nations, all of whom were sent prophets to guide them to the right path. Of all these tribes and nations, only few actually listened to the prophets and the rest didn't. Of all these tribes, and nations, the jews were sent the most prophets, and the gave the most trouble (they've been around a long time). That's it really. So there were jews that were good. Many of the prophets and their followers were jews. [B]Edit: Sorry, I worded the above paragrapgh incorrectly. I meant that [B]within[/B] these tribes and nations, most people didn't listen.[/B] And that doesn't give us the right to hurt jews for no reason at all. But still to this day, many of them, (in Islam's view) are still defying God. The term "jew" can be difficult to understand, because it refers to both a race and a religion. There are jews who are athiest, and there are arabs who are jews. I haven't heard of this, but there could be jews who are muslim too. "The muslim nation aren't getting along with Israel" because we believe the jews (jewish religion, not race) have been denied that land because they defied God so many times. Those who are followind judaism are still defying God now. And in addition, they did invade land that palestinians were living on. Now I understand tha jews believe that the land belongs to them, and that they actually must fight and remove those living in the land and build that nation called Israel. I respect those believes. But muslims believe otherwise, so at the same time we must fight them and stop them from invading the land we call ours. In my opinion, I think palestinians should fight back, but not by bombing civilians. Not a drop of blood should be shed from the innocent. The only way is build up an army and conduct proper warfare. But of course, we'd all like peace right now. And the only way is for both sides to compromise. If jews don't want to compromise, neither will the palestinians, and vice versa. It's a bit difficult. Jews believe they must actually remove palestinians. That's why the arabs are so keen to keep fighting. It's a matter of mistrust. Even if the jews just want to live in the land right now, they will eventually try to get all palestinians out, and even take over jordan, lebanon, and syrria, because the all used to be one with palestine. Anyway... As a palestinian, all I want is rights for my people, and to be able to go back to my homeland peacefully. I have no problem living alongside jews, as long as they don't deny us our rights, and allowing us access to jerusalem and the mosque peacefully, and a palestinian state. [/COLOR][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] If it makes you feel any better I don't think that the Jews (As a religion) have any claim to Isreal with any material substance (Saying that they deserve it because God said so is not a reason to have a country IMO) and that the country itself is Illegal, but when they start taking things over it just crosses the line. I don't think that even the Jews as a race deserve the land, since the only people who really have any claim to it are the Bedouin Nomads. Also, I found that 'garbage' in the Qu'Ran. I don't remember the surrah, but it says somthing like 'Jews are the greediest peoples on earth and are never to be given a moments peace' or somthing along those lines. I'm looking for where I read it, and when I find it I'll post the actual quote. My point was that the Muslim literalists and the Jewish literalists will never be at peace unless both religions go through a MAJOR reform, similar to what the Catholics did. [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Retribution][SIZE=1] As for the propaganda-ish media crossing over the border... I have no idea what you're talking about. Bush doesn't really have too much 'propaganda' in America. I mean, he has the Army commericials, but those aren't related to him at all. Really, I see the media as pretty free from Bush propaganda. Altogether.[/SIZE][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] Trust me, in Canada it's hell. Every second news story you watch, every commercial, every bit of Media (With a few very notable exceptions) seems to be geared towards turning us into Americanites. [B] 'Terry's gift is forever green'[/B] I'm not sure who originally said it, but it was used in the song Inveitability of Death (Tragically Hip, My Music @ Work, 2000) It is said in reference to a man whom I deeply, deeply respect, Terry Fox, who more or less changed the face of Courage and Determination as we know them. 2010 is the 30th Aniversity of the Marathon of Hope, and I'm patitioning the Federal Government to put Terry on some CDN currency in time for the 2010 Vancouver Olympics. That would be, in my opinion, the ultimate way to show the respect to the the ultimate athlete.[/COLOR]

[quote name='Circéus']Don't come in the winter either, it's too cold!! ;)[/quote] [COLOR=DarkRed] That's a good thing, though. There's no such thing as 'too cold,' especially when you've got your trusty Toque on![/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]'So, the chemistry's set And I'm not the saddest cheerleader To forget the American word For the gang in the head That dwindles to no members when The mystery's met And the sky looks threatened Heading home in the dusk Singing, 'life is forgetting Good enough for the frivolous''[/B] The Tragically Hip - Vacination Scar I love this part of the song because it really, really expresses how I feel about the War in Iraq. It's a good song, too. And yes, the song was written about Bush's War. The Hip are deep like that. [B] 'What's troubling Gus you sound demented Is it because someone talked and she told me He no longer thinks anything that moves and Everything he sees is something to kill and eat? What's troubling Gus is it nothing goes quiet? The whip-poor-will at dusk.... What's troubling Gus overhearing conversations That it's because you're too either them or me When it's either them or it's us anything that moves and Everything you see is something to kill and eat What's troubling Gus? Is it nothing goes quiet? Is that what's troubling ya Gus the mere mention of the name Used to be enough to make every bird stop singing? Is that what's troubling ya Gus? No one is afraid enough? What's troubling Gus is it nothing goes quiet? Is that what's troubling ya Gus? The mere attention of the name Used to be enough to make every bird stop singing The whip-poor-will at dusk tells you no one is afraid No one is afraid enough Is it afraid Or is it afraid enough It's troubling Gus' [/B] The Tragically Hip - Gus: The Polar Bear from Central Park Although this song was officially written about a polar bear named Gus in central park who proved to shrinks that animals could in fact get depressed, I prefer the more sinister version. Replace the name Gus with GWB and you'll see what I mean. [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=celestialcharm]I warn you, don't come to Canada in the Summer!!! It's too hot!! If my mom heard you say that about Canada Day, she might have to hurt you. But, I thought Canada Day was an excuse to buy fireworks to shoot at people. How come Canadian's and American's always have to rant or whatever? Why can't we all just get along? [/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] Ya, it is to hot... I'm sticking to everything and it sucks :/ It all depends on the area... in Quebec it's basically another excuse for Habs fans to gather, sgin O Canada really loud, than, while Fireworks are going off, we drink and talk about how much better the Habs are than any other team... It's a fun gathering. I'll stop ranting when the US stop screwing us over and making fools of us on the worlds stage...[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Retribution][SIZE=1]*awkward cough* Erm... You don't live in America, so you wouldn't really get any of the stuff Lore's talking about. She's talking about stereotypical American moments. 4th of July, learning the Pledge of Allegiance (I too said "invisible" when I first learned it), watching those baseball games and those white picket fences. It's more of a cultural up-bringing thing. Like, I wouldn't have any idea of traditional Canadian stuff. Canada's kind of a cold, obscure nation, north of America, where I go when Bush instates the draft. That's (mostly) all I know.[/SIZE][/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkRed] Yes, I don't live in the US (Although I know a great deal about it, I don't think you realize just how invasive the US media is over here) but my point was that the US has prfoundly, in recent years, screwed over my country. I was just responding to all the good things that the US sterotypically does with all the bad things that it... well, actualy has done. It was probably out of place, but I often can't contain myself when I here things like that without anything bad... It just makes me feel, well, sick. BTW, Canada is more or less like the US, but instead of Baseball you've got Hockey, instead of trhe pledge of alligence you've got O Canada and The Maple Leaf Forever, and Canada Day is even in the same week as the 4th of July, although it's really just an excuse to get into a drunken Hockey Riot... caugh... and burn things.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Lore][color=#6699cc]I think that's true, but it's also very sweet. And isn't it true of any sort of love, really? When I think of America, I don't think of George Bush, or Iraq, or terror. I think of playing in the sprinkler in my backyard, and helping paint the honest-to-gosh white picket fence that seperated our front lawn from the back. I remember watermelon juice dribbling down my chin at 4th of July picnics; I remember walking down to the beach to watch the fireworks at night when I was young, and I remember driving my little brother to watch the fireworks last summer. I think of how I learned the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 5 and would say "...under God, invisible" at the end. I think of almost 20 years of Thanksgiving dinners at my Grandparents' farm, and learning about Pilgrims when I was in kindergarten, and the public school I went to for the first three years of my education. So help me, I [i]do[/i] think of ice cream and apple pie, and it's good stuff. I think of Trick-or-Treating, and bobbing for apples, and the crisp, new smell of spring after a long muddy winter. [i]This[/i] is my America. I don't understand how anyone could hate it. [/color][/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkRed] >begin rant When I think of America, I think of all the Canadian farmers (Including my Uncle and my best friend's dad) who got screwed by the Beef Ban. I think of all of BC's lumber industry which is going out of business one-by-one due to the illegal Lumber Tariff. I think of the fact that he didn't know the identity of our PM when we sent aide to NYC in the first hours and landed all those US planes and welcomed them into our homes (It's true; for about two days we had 3 people from the US living in our home, and this happened all over the nation) I think of the fact that he threatened, and damn nearly did, to blockade the boarder when Canada refused to fall in line and march off to Iraq. I think of the illegal patroling of Canadian waters in the Artic by US Subs under Bush's direct order. I think of the fact that Bush has only set foot in his closest allies country ONCE in his 5 years as president. He even flew down to Australia (Where he was boooed by Aussie MPs) and Mexico. I think of the virtual white-washing of Canadian importance in American textbooks and history. I think of the propogandga-ish media that flows over the boarder and turns people into Right-Wing, Uber-Americanised 'tin soldiers.' Finally, I think of the consequences of GWB's illegal war that's greatly effected my and many other lives. [I]This[/I] is my America. I don't see how great it is. >end rant.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]'Who?' [/B] Bush, when asked about Jean Chretien's contribution to the 9/11 tragedy. Am I the only person who thinks this is terribly, terribly sad? For those that don't know (>.>) Chretien was the PM of Canada during the WTC debacle. The funny-looking Frenchmen with the crooked mouth... choked a protestor,,, got taken out by a pie... ringin' any bells?[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]Give a man a fish - He will eat for a day Teach a man to fish - He will eat for a liftime Teach a man to pray - He will starve to death praying for a fish.[/B] I don't actualy know who said that, but I stole it from somone on another forum and I just find it both true AND funny.[/COLOR]

[quote name='Burori']*Cries* I got Pawned in my own province. It seems anyone who decided to start driving last year was sucked into the worse gas Monopoly ever. God how I crave for the old days when gas was 70 a litre here in Quebec. Hell now today everyone is gittery when it is seen as 90.....sad sad world we live in....[/quote] [COLOR=DarkRed] To think, just 9 short months ago gas was going for 76, and that was high! It seems like such a long time ago :animecry: [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Pumpkin][SIZE=1]Just because something isn't a big tragedy doesn't mean it isn't important to somebody. Vandalism is common nowadays but that doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it right that those parents have to worry about someone stealing something off their child's grave. [/SIZE][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] Yes, I know. But this is just depressing; it's not really important news. I'd rather hear about all the Aide workers being kidnapped in Iraq than about some stuffed animals being stolen.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]'The problem with the French is they have no word for Entrepeneur'[/B] George Bush, IQ 91, Presidency USA. The funniest part is that he wasn't kidding. [B] 'I like nonsense - it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living. It's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope... and that enables you to laugh at all of life's realities. '[/B] Dr.Seuss. I like this because I like to think that I have a very skewed view on life and, hey, I like to laugh at all of lifes realities. [B] 'There's no British Dream. There's no Canadian Dream - of course there isn't, we didn't give ya one - there's no Irish Dream and no Indian Dream. That's because the rest of us are awake.'[/B] I don't remember his name, but he's a British comedian who I saw live at Just for Laughs, Montreal. [B] 'I just realised somthing... What matters is that we're all hockey fans. Some of us may root for a team that sucks, you, but we're still all just hockey fans.' [/B]Dale, from Chilly Beach. I love this qoute because it was said about Montreal and Toronto, and Dale is a Montreal fan, and because I think that the Toronto Maple Leafs suck, it really speaks to me and makes me laugh. Those are all the ones I can think of off the top of my head...[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]Vandels are vandels. You can't expect to put somthing on a grave and find it there the next morning; it's the sad truth about my Generation, shiftless lot we are. I think that this, although a bit of a reminder of how much my generation sucks, is not really a tragedy; it's a fact of life, like Hockey Riots are a fact of life where I live. I'd rather see news reporting about the two Torontonians who were caught smuggling guns across the Boarder, and than that lead them to a gun-smuggling ring that was responsible for 14 shootings in the Toronto Area; now that is a tragedy. This is just depressing.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE]The only reason some one could believe this sort of thing to be acceptable would be a complete deficiency of reason.[/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] That, sadly, sums up Religious Fundamentalism.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=ChibiHorsewoman][color=darkviolet]The civilians are getting [i]really[/i] cheesed off right now about being forced to move. Sharon sent his troops over to try and get the people to move peacefuly but they barricaded off one of the main roads. The troops didn't do anything in retaliation though. All they did is stand around for a while and leave. I'm really hoping thsi all ends peacefully, but it sucks that the two main religious groups in the region can't just suck it up and cohabitate like adults. I mean they're worshiping the same God, right?[/color][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] I agree, I hope that the this all goes off without another massive war and blood shed, I hope that the local militants don't get any anti-semertic ideas. We'll see. But the two main religious groups, especially Islam, will never get along. In the Qu'ran it even says that the Jews are the 'Greediest human beings alive' or somthing like that, and that they are all bad in the eyes of Al'lah. I'm not exactly sure, but devout Muslims will most likely always hate Jews, because to not hate Jews is againts the fundimentals of the Religion. Unless Islam goes through a major reform, like the Catholics did, the Muslim nations will never get along with Isreal.[/COLOR]

I'd just like to let you know I have to drop out of this RP, sorry. With school and the like, I won't have time to write full chapters in a short period of time, and I've lost my flare for writing of late. I apologise.

[QUOTE]And by the way, as of today, there has still been no evidence that homosexuality is genetic. [/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkRed] That isn't entirly true, actualy. Recent dissections (In some obscure University or somthing) of straight men and women, and homosexual men found that there was a small part of the brain that was larger in Homosexual men, and that the womans was much larger than the men. It's probably producing horomones, and that they are designed to attract somone to whichever sex. When homosexual women were disected, they found the part of the brain was much smaller. [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Hack Helba][FONT=Trebuchet MS] [COLOR=SeaGreen]I doesn't appear that your timeline appears. Well, not for me anyways. [I]"Due bandwhidth limitations hotlinking images has been disabled"[/I] As long as it contrbutes to the discussion (which I'm hoping it does) I don't think spam is an issue.[/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkRed] Hmm... Ok, well, it was a piture of a mathematical timeline with an arrow pointing to the begginging, and it said 'Begining of Time' and than about 75% through it points and says 'You are Here' and than at the end of the timeline it says 'Now.' I felt it was appropriate because religious-based ignorance was supposed to have been left behind centuries ago.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=SilentSecurity] I understand the whole Religious meaning behind this strip of land, but is it really worth all the killing? I guess they think so. It's an answer, but is it the right one? I really don't think so. Peace is the only answer that will ever satisfy both sides, and the chances of that happening are looking slimmer everyday.[/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] The chances aren't just slim, as long as one is Muslim and the other is Jewish (See: the Koran) there will always be a war. Even if they weren't fighting because of religion, the Muslims have a right to be pissed off; Isreal was an illegal country that was illegally created, I think that they'd try and destroy it no matter what happens.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE] The other question I wanted to ask is: why does everybody think the war has to do with higher gas prices? Iraq doesn't even have the most oil. We get ours mainly from Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, I believe. Like... 80% in those two countries. We didn't go to war for oil, either. Never. lol. I'd like to ask, though, is there a more complex part of this that I'm missing? Please explain to me why the war would make gas prices higher - I've heard the arguement enough that now I want to know why people think that. X_x;[/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkRed] Yes, a lot of Oil does come from Saudi Arabia and Venezuala (As well as Alberta and Texas) but a lot of that oil that would be going to the econemy is instead going into War, a large, large percent of it is going into fueling tanks, planes, ships etc etc. The reason this effects the rest of the Western world so much is that a lot of the oil in the world (Particularily in Canada) goes through the US first, and than into the country it's destined for. For processing, pricing, market etc etc. So now that oil becomes scarcer due to the war, the US has the ability to significantly mark up prices on crude oil, or just reserve it for themselves, thus thurougly boning the rest of us. That's the biggest problem with giving one of the most militiristic Western worlds so much money; the government is just bound to rob the rest of us blind. [/COLOR] [QUOTE]And America does it more than other other country. We're the only one who's pulled out of the Kyoto pact, wants to drill for more in Alaska (yes, let's screw over the wildlife!!!). I don't blame other nations for breathing down our necks like fire dragons. [/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] Actualy, China, and the former USSR, the so-called Communist countries (So-Called because they were in fact imperialist dictatorships that give us Commie Socialists a bad name) were MUCH more lax about their pollution cotrole. It's disgusting; nuclear waste is being poured into lakes, they have no laws againts burning coal or oil, it's a complete disaster. Brazilians burning the Rainforest to make room for McDonalds cattle isn't helping neither....[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]Wow, thanks a lot. I found a better avi in the meantime, but thanks for resizing that anywawy. Thanks :animesmil [/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]The rivers don't sleep, when the water runs cold And the calender burns as the story unfolds The valley spans miles and the mountains stand high Can't they let us run wild, for just another midnight?[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]The Tragically Hip[/B] - Live, they are amazing. Be it a bar-gig or in front of a huge aduiance, Gord and the boys really know how to rock. When they go into a Jam session and they just start belting out all their songs it's incredible. Gord Downie is one of the wildest preformers ever; when he starts screaming at his microphone stand and the stage starts to shake and the crowd cheers... nothing beats it. [B]Rush[/B] - I know a lot of people don't like to watch them live; Geddy Lee is a bit hard on the eyes, I'll admit. But the crowd... the energy... the... the amazing talent of the band, it's just amazing. When Neil Peart breaks into his 15 min drum solo and the crowd starts to sing along to an INSTRUMENTAL (See: Rush in Rio - YYZ) you just can't believe it. Those are really the only live shows I've been to, but I'd like to see [B]Trooper[/B] and maybe I'd love to catch [B]The Guess Who[/B] if they ever get together for another 'Running Back Thru Canada' tour.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]I don't know: I just don't find NFL-Style football as entertaining as some other sports (Hockey, first and foremost) and I'm much more excited about the CFL season. I much prefer the slightly different rules used by the CFL; three downs, bigger balls ( :p ) wider field etc etc. It makes for a more pass-dependent game, and because of the three downs it means that people don't have as much room for error and it makes everything more exciting. Plus CFL teams are local teams that I can identify with more so that is probably the bigger reason I'm more of a CFL fan than an NFL one. Anyway... Go Montreal Allouets! While we're on the subject, Vive le Montreal Canadiens! [/COLOR]

[QUOTE] You think that a bloody war for the former Iraq's territory would be better than us stabilizing the country and installing a centralized government? Do you have any idea what the senario you're talking about would lead to? I'm talking mass war between those countries in the Middle East you mentioned. Not to mention hightened animosity towards Americans in general. Here, I'll put it like this:[/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] Think about it this way: Iraq is a country divided, basically, between the Shiites and the Sunni, with the Kurds curled up in the center getting ****** no matter who wins. Now, lets say that the person elected in a democratic election is Sunni. The Shiites would not take that lieing down; there would be mass revolts, and eventually a Shiite leader would be installed. And than the Sunni would get pissed and they'd revolt. It's the nature of Radical Islam (Not ignorance, just fact). [/COLOR] [QUOTE] Seriously, you're talking about mass war between several land-hungry powers. By giving these countries the prospect of land, they're going to want it all, and they won't be able to have it. Meaning big fights, and large numbers of civilian casualties. But really, who gives a f_ck, I mean, they're on the other side of the world, living in some poor a_s country anyway. Why bother cleaning up the mess we made, when we can retire to our nice, warm country, complete with food, water, power, and communications? [/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkRed] No, I'm not. Because Radical and Imperial Islam is such a divided religion, and such a fiercly divided one, it would be a matter of religious-hungry countries like Iran and Turkey trying to get as many shiites or sunnis as possible to keep their regimes afloat; There is a chance, of course, either country will go on a bit of a Jihad againts the other; and it's, sadly, likely that the Kurds will get the short end of the stick again. I'm truely sorry for that; but at this point there is no way to help them. They'd be like the Third Party or the Green Party; accept here, they don't just feel disapointed about losing another election, they lose thousands in a bloody coup by the Shiites or Sunnis. By the way, my country wasn't involved in creating the mess. We have no obligation to clean up the mess; only to be disapointed in the result of an ill-planned offensive by our neighbors.[/color]