Mnemolth

Okay, so I take it no one recalls the total failure of fusion of digital and traditional cell animation in the movie? Remember? With the hellicopters and the building? That looked just awful. But hey, its kinda cute now, much like the way Doctor Who sets are cute in that silly amateurish way. ;)

New? Not really. But yes its a very good anime. Although I should add I would not recommend it to young children. Its not really their kinda thing. Its a scary psychological thriller that will leave an indelible imprint on your mind long after viewing. And no I don't have any pics, but I'm sure there are plenty around. It has a bit of a followng. ;)

Yeah, I've had trouble for the last couple of days, and also sometime last week as well. I guess the admins are doing a bit of tinkering? *shrugs* It would help if they announce any such downtime though, just so that we mere mortals know when we won't get our daily dix...;)

Thanks for the feedback. :) Eerie? Hmm...I guess so...it is about death after all. Maybe a little bit too morbid for the likes of these Boards...;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sephiroth [/i] [B]Everything in the world would be settled with a nice little chat over a cup of tea.... [/B][/QUOTE] Talking never solves anything, it only postpones the inevitable. ;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i] [B][color=darkblue]bwahahahaha! yeah, we chicks really suck. i'm serious. mind games. MIND GAMES!! see my comment in babygirl's thread. nah, girls don't suck any worse than guys. they just suck in a different way.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Hmm....that sounds kinda kinky...;)

Heheheh. If someone can tell me where my name is from, I'd be very, VERY impressed indeed. You may have to be a little literate and maybe with just a little soft spot for the French. ;)

Hmm...I think Juuthena was referring to me rather than you Mist. I'm sure many peole have now figured out my threads can be quite long, long-winded perhaps? ;) I'd like to think they are long because they have some depth and analysis in them, and they're half comprehensible. But then again I could be wrong. ;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DarkOrderKnight [/i] [B]Sweet and beautiful. I really like it. 8/10 [/B][/QUOTE] Is it just my imagination or do you give everyone 8/10? ;) High enough not to be an insult and low enough not to be praise?? *wicked smile*

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1] Interesting indeed. A very thoughtful insight. However, what the impression you are leaving me is simply "I like both anime and animation, and if you were more open-minded, you would too." [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Not really. :) For one thing, anime is really a subset of animation. For another, what I wanted to convey was not so much that you HAVE to like both, but that you SHOULD respect both. There is skill, artistry and depth in American animation. Sure there are formulaic plots and designs, but these exists in anime as well. Let's not forget all those still shots drifting across the screen, or all those giant-sized robots. ;) [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1] Here's the example of why I don't like western portraits of "grace". Take a Disney Classic, "Sleeping Beauty". If you look at Auroa, the main charcter, her body is angualr, her eyes tiny, and her hair like a stiff bored. Are real people's hair like stiff boards? No.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Hmm....I can understand that you like the anime 'style', but if you are saying that 'style' of drawing is more realistic than traditional american animation, I would have to disagree. A feature of anime are all those big eyes, I mean how many people IRL have such disproportionate eyes? And the hair? They seem to range the entire rainbow spectrum. And when the characters do something stupid/comical, the action and drawing is chaotic and lose all sense of realism. But it works. Why? Because it is highly stylised. [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1]Here's two more example of why I prefer anime to western animation. They are based on the masculine side of animation, so just sit back for me, okay? Take Superman. He's very angular and big, a hulking figure who looks like an abnormal freak. Put a regular shirt on him, and he looks freakishly large. Alright, moving to Parn, from Record of Loddess War. He thin, yet athletic. Put a regualr shirt on him, and he'd look to be physically active, and not like the chunk your local mountain was missing. I do appreciate animation, seeing how it started it all, but I prefer anime's more graceful lines, to the western "angular" view that seems to be instilled in all that you see.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Just as anime is stylised, so is american animation. Yet the example you've chosen is not really common. Superman uses a style similar to the popular Batman series, spawned I might add from the original Dark Knight reconstruction of Batman in the early 90s. It features great hulking jaws and huge chests and long drawn out shadows and personally I thought it worked well with Batman, the 'angular' nature suited the comic hero, but it probably doesn't do as well for Superman. If you look at something like Spiderman, you'll see the difference. The facial features are much less 'angular', although spidey himself, might be drawn at sharp angles as are the buildings, but then again that's the nature of the perspective of a high-rise web-crawler.

I read something somewhere on the Internet about the age-old battle cry for subs against dubs and it prompted me into thinking about my interests in anime. I should make myself clear from the start. I am more a fan of animation than I am of anime. So it is that I lament often when people fail to appreciate the various other forms of animation, and their contribution to the overall diversity and quality of what we see on screen or on our television sets. I enjoy all kinds of animation, from almost all places, but because my exposure to it is limited to what is shown on television or available in my local video store, anime and American animation usually dominate. I know there is significant disdain amongst many anime 'purists', who regard American animation as an abomination and Disney as the devil, whose skin crawls when someone calls anime 'cartoons', or who live in the world of the manga, which really is generally regarded as the most pure form of anime. And of course, they are entitled to their opinion and it is as valid, or as flawed, as mine. Yet I can't help but wish people would see animation through my eyes, to know its poetry, its beauty, its simplicity and its complexity. To enjoy the unbounded and unlimited visions projected by the human imagination. To know it is entertainment and nothing more, to appreciate its light and its dark and all the marvelous spectrum in between. I remember with fondness the 'Saturday cartoons'. Intensely commercialised and merchandised, I nevertheless was glued to the television set, mesmerised by the battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons, snuggling in bed to the smaltz of the Gummi Bears, snickering at the familiarity between the Jetsons and the Flintstones, awed by the graphics of Reboot when it first came out, swept away into the world of the Neo-Sapiens and humans of the future of Exo-Squad, sweeping back into the wonder of the ancients from Mysterious Cities of Gold, just relaxing with the adventure of Galtar and the Golden Lance, He-Man, ThunderCats, DragonFly, Space Knights, laughing riotiously under the spell of Pinky and the Brain and the insanity of the Space Monkeys and the vulgar stupidity of Ren and Stimpy, anxious for each new chapter of the Uncanny X-Men, Spiderman, and the dark knight himself, Batman and many, many, many more shows, too many to list, but all remembered, all cherished to one degree or another. And you know what? I haven't bought a single piece of merchandise. Not one. Not a transformer, not a Batman figurine, nothing. Nada. Zip. Because its the animation that attracts me, the fusion of drawings, colorings, sounds and music. And so it was that in the early 90s I was introduced to anime. The first of which I saw at a film festival in my home town. I had some idea of what it was, I had followed shows on television that had an anime ancestry, in particular, Robotech, Star Blazers, and of course, the wonderful and unforgettable Astroboy. I had also seen features that inherited from the anime tradition but were firmly American, such as The Last Unicorn. But this was different. This was the first time I had seen an 'adult' variety and something uniquely anime, and I was quite unprepared. I don't remember all the shows in that festival, it was almost 10 years ago, but I distinctly recall Legend of the Overfiend was there (highlighted by a stoush with our censorship board), I also remember Wicked City, Project Z, and Venus Wars. And of course, Akira. I walked away from that festival my head spinning. Of course I was hooked. But you could probably say I was hooked on animation long before anime. And that is where I come from. I saw Tarzan from Disney again yesterday, and I'm still struck by the dizzing fluidity of the animation, the detailed and glorious backdrops, and some actions sequences executed with such daring as to almost draw one inside a three dimensional world. Maybe I could have done without a song number from Rosie O'Donnell, or do away with all the songs altogether, but they aren't all that bad. And if you can look past them, you can see animation the likes of which is comparable with anything coming out of Japan. Animation has come a long along way since I was a wide-eyed little child staring into the glaring light of the television set. I saw Final Fantasy a few months ago, and again a couple of weeks ago, and I can see how some things have changed, and how many things have stayed the same. There is great variety and depth within the animation world. Even within a particular genre like anime, there is much difference. The way faces are drawn, characters designed, backgrounds used. Yet as much as I like anime, I also love 'American' produced animation. Films like Flight of Dragons and The Last Unicorn are quintessentially western, and they remain a feast for the eyes and the ears. Although Final Fantasy was produced with a mind toward the American market, you can trace its Japanese origins simply by paying attention to the plot and the complicated overlays in the animation. Similarly, personally I have seen nothing like Shrek or A Bug's Life come out of Japan. I am, I suppose, an animation fan or freak. I even enjoy the much misunderstood art of clay animation, the pinnacle of which must be the Wallace and Grommit series. Animation is many things to many people. To me it is the imagination freed from the constraints of reality, soaring on the wings of the impossible. So why did I bring this up? Well, I guess I just wish people can see the forest from the trees, to look beyond the bonds that often bind genres, beyond the idiosyncracies of cultures, and to appreciate all the differences and understand that each contribution is important to the overall world of animation.

I've seen the OVA series. I wouldn't say its great, but watchable. Animation is a little jerky in parts though.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ravenstorture [/i] [B][color=darkgreen][font=gothic]Hmmmm.... one of the concepts of gothic the subculture prides itself on is being very open and accepting nearly everything. Basically as it is a mindset and a way of life, many genres of music can fit. Although "depressing" does some it up rather well. Actually, I should rather say "melancholy" as depression should not be linked with gothicdom too strongly. You have to admit however, people who dress in black do tend to like the same kind of stuff. I personally like fear factory, deftones, the tea party, fallen tears, a perfect circle and sunk loto, but I also happen to enjoy lots of house music, filter, grinspoon, chemical brothers, Rachmaninoff, and (blushes a deep crimson colour) a bit of Kylie Minouge. Only some of her very recent stuff, I swear!!! (please don't kill me...) Still, I cnsider myself gothic, and I wear my black with pride. Victorian and romantic eras are out of fashion now, and these days a modern goth wouldn't be seen dead in a cloak, but I am one of a dying breed. [/font][/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Cloaks, like black, are never out-dated. People, on the other hand.... And I agree with melancholy. There is a sweetness to it that can be profoundly addictive. Depression on the other hand is all pain...;)

Er...no, I didn't mean you would want NOT to be forgiven. Of course you would. We all do. But whether one can EXPECT that is a different matter. Putting that aside for a moment, you said you could 'easily forgive' your guy if he admitted to cheating. My question was that, since you can do that, do you require that easy level of forgiveness in return? Or is it a matter of, 'Well I can easily forgive you, because you're a guy, and well, guys do what guys do, its hardwired into their genes so they really can't help themselves. Girls, on the other hand, well, we have more control, so if a girl slips up, its worse..." and so on. Hmm....let's put it this way. It makes me a little uneasy when guys are treated more lightly than girls when it comes to infidelity. If being unfaithful is 'understandable' for guys, then it should be JUST as 'understandable' for girls. But that's rarely the case. Again, I'm not sure if I've explained my position too clearly, anyone else wanna take a stab at it? ;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B][color=deeppink]I'm probably one of the few people in the world who doesn't care all that much about cheating. I think it's completely fine to kiss someone else when you're "with" another person. If I was with a guy that had sex with another woman, as long as he admitted it to me and it never happened again, I could easily forgive. The initial hurt would sting a bit, but then I'd just have to remind myself that they were merely giving in to their animal instincts...those can be rather hard to control at times ;)[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Interesting....does that mean you expect the same in return? That your bf would forgive and forget, so to speak, if you succumbed to your animal instincts? Or is it only a one-way street? ;) If so, are you saying that somehow girls are required to be more faithful than guys? Wouldn't that be a kind of double standard? :)

[b]A love eternal[/b] There are many things I cannot do, I see you but I cannot touch you, I sense your sadness And as much as I want I cannot hold you, Caress you, comfort you. Encased in the coffin of your black dress I feel your pain and your need, Every beat of your helpless heart Only tightens the noose around your neck. I know the paralyzing palpitations That suffocate you, drown you, exhaust you. And, I can do nothing, For I stand here, Looking upon you without eyes, Listening to you without ears, A silent soul adrift Around you, about you, in you. There are many things I cannot do, Without form, without voice I?m an invisible mute. Yet, weep not for me my dearest, For our love needs no form to give it substance And no voice for it to be heard. Until the Lord brings us together once more, There are many things I cannot do, Racing along the shores of spirits Watching you pass on the river of life. I can only pray your journey is a smooth one, I can only wave and call to you And tell you how much I love you. A love that will survive, A love that will endure, A love eternal.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1] Too bad the women couldn't understand what [i]he[/i] was saying...o.O It's not hard to tell if a guy is lying or not. [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Gee..if that were true there would be very little need for my profession...well actually ex-profession...but I digress...;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1] *whacks rod in painful place* Die. Die and burn. *whacks rod in painful place again* *and again* *and again* *and again* I am not short, or cute, and I defintily haven't allowed anyone the pleasure of my kiss. God, if Mishka saw this, I'd [i]never[/i] hear the end of it...[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Again and again and again? Oh my, you've got endurance on top of your other attractive features! Its almost too much. Be still my beating heart... ;)

Your rhyme is most amusing, the words are most pleasing 'till someone comes a'Misting and severs you from the land of the living! ;)

...and now for a little fun with just an ounce of opprobrium. ;) A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet but if its all the same with you, I do believe, Mnemolth stinks like sh*t. The sword has been drawn, who shall step forward and take up the challenge? :devil: The rules are quite simple and straightforward. 1. You are to write about another member of OB. Now I've started with myself, cos..well...cos I wanted to start things off on a light note. You can get heavy if you want. Just remember to remain good-humoured. ;) 2. But it MUST be an insight into the other person (of course it can be completely wrong, it just needs to be your opinion at the time of writing). 3. Insults and praises are both accepted as long as they're done with good humour, and great wit, and NO malice. Please note, however, the person you're commenting on may be sensitive and so you may need to adjust your contribution accordingly. (For me personally, you can say anything and everything. I promise not to be offended, as long as its intelligent and witty, or simply hilarious, but you have to stick with the format, see below). 4. You can submit more than one contribution and/or you can post about more than one person, and you can reply to contributions. However, ANY post on this thread MUST be poetic in nature (it need not rhyme but it still has to be a poem), with a MINIMUM of four lines. If you have any questions, PM me, do not post it here. You can explain your poem in your post if you'd like. You can adapt a famous poem, you can even copy an APPROPRIATE passage if you want, just as long its poetic in nature, intelligent and witty. So...whose got the right stuff? ;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1] Then you must be very shallow. Very funny guys! I can't make something short or cute...[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Mist 'O Mist, something short you say and something cute? Would that be you, Or just your kiss? ;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][color=red][size=1]We're talking about this [b]seriously[/b], although what you said was quite amusing...Where are you [b]really[/b] going for vacation?[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Home. :) Was. Now I'm back at college. :) As for being serious, you may have noticed I'm almost never entirely serious. Of course I make up for that by almost never entirely joking either...;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Saiyjin Beijita [/i] [B]Actually, I believe that Fantasy Writing is for the more mature readers, as it takes a certain level of maturity to grasp and understand the true meaning behind it. Hmm, a Dragonlance fan. Hehe. Did you read Weis and Hickman's latest [I]Dragons of a Vanished Moon[/I]? I would love to discuss this series if you do read it, as I am a devout fan. :D Also, I love Robert Jordan and his Wheel of Time series. [/B][/QUOTE] Hmm....interesting...where I'm from fantasy is regarded as the poorer brother to science fiction which in turn is a poor cousin of 'real' literature. Smacks of elitism you say? I'd concede that point, but I still think its valid. Not too many of those glossy paperbacks have ever won a Booker Prize or captured a Nobel. In fact the reputation of fantasy is held in such low regard by most 'real' writers I sometimes think its a pity. I believe some works of fantasy certainly deserve more critical acclaim. Of course, then I look upon the rows and rows of populist sugar candy, on any bookstore, that parades itself as fantastic fiction and I realise my mistake. ;) Fantasy is a great place to start on the journey of reading and writing. But that's not where the trip should end. Of course saying something like that on a Board devoted to anime is probably nothing short of heresy! ;)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DBZChikaGhan [/i] [B] [color=purple]My don't we love to contradict ourself. That was beautiful and truthful Justin. Your friend is intelligent and insightful. His work came from the heart. He is an amazing writer.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Contradiction is the hobgoblin of small minds. - Sean Penn Well, I'm sure he didn't make it up but I can't recall who he was quoting from, whoever it was, it was an interesting comment.

Babylon 5 quotes: "There comes a time when you look into the mirror and realize that what you see is all that you will ever be. Then you accept it, or you kill yourself. Or you stop looking into mirrors." - Londo "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." - Ambassador Kosh