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[size=1] Of course the media is biased...having an opinon itself is called bias. And everyone has one.. This is why I don't really watch the news/media crap as it is. [/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Hataki Vash [/i] [B][b][color=orangered][size=1]Still no one wants to be me, after my touching speech about everyone having their own unique personality... Man, I feel neglected. But whats so great about James... hmph I could be him anyday, and whos this Meteora kid, I mean he hasnt even been here for like 4 months and hes the greatest... lol, Im just playing with you guys. But yea, Im still mad no one wants to be me...[/size][/color][/b] [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Fine, fine fine...I want you. Not need, want. Meaning I don't need you but I want you. Meaning I personally feel some connected need to need you in wanting way. Meaning I just love your way with stuff that I just want you and stuff. Meaning we're trippy trippers and you're trippy mad. At least we're not sadists, that'd be sad. There. Merry Reznormas.[/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Adahn [/i] [B]There's this funny little thing about faith, if it's proven, it's not faith anymore. Faith requires belief in something that cannot be proven. To argue that you will never have faith in anything because it can't be proven, is, well, I'm sure there's a word for it :). Belief without proof is the definition of faith, and I don't understand what you are trying to say. Other than that, I am glad you can see where other people are coming from, and how it could be possible that they might be correct. I do wonder if there is some explanation for your position on faith, or if you truly didn't know what faith implies. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] This shall be nearly my last post in this thread; I've said what I've said over and over again, and yet people such as yourself seem to not understand what I am saying as far as I make it clear. So basically I am not accomplishing anything to these people such as you. I'm saying that I'm a logical person. I will only believe in someting if it's true. Isn't that was belief is, knowing something is near true and choosing it to be true? I'd say yes. At least in the way I define "belief." I do not believe in faith, then. I simply refuse to choose it due to what it is: either a lie or a truth. Obviously, in every single thing there is some truth to be gleaned as well as something false. Nothing will ever be completely true, that is, as long as you have the depth to understand things to their very deepest roots. So basically I am saying, because I believe in logic above all else, and I refuse to just be all, "Yes, I believe in this for [stated reason] because I think it'd be worth it to me as a person to believe this, and I think also that it's right." To me that doesn't work. You either choose to completely believe in something upon TRULY seeing it. Obviously you cannot see God TRULY until you are dead...and thus, this is another reason: I am not going to put faith in something that most likely, in today's definition, isn't true. I'm sure some things in religion have to be right...I mean, it bases itself upon a lot of things which are easily relatable...and with the bible seems to dramatize often. But I choose simply to stand in the center of all this; I chose to be cautious and wary towards it: I choose not to simply accept it upon someone else's stated fact, or that it's ingrained in my parents and what they've taught--rather, I choose to be indifferent to it. Since I can't choose either side without being completely correct...and I figure that most likely I'd hate god if he were true, I choose to be apathetical, an apatheist, and stand in the center, not choosing either one; those being that God is real or he isn't. Therefore I cannot be erroneous in my decision...since I didn't have to make one in the first place. I'm sure it's sort of an ablogical way to look at things...but it's as far as I can go to being true to myself. And as for God, even if this is rather off topic, if he's so great, then I don't understand. Why is there so much injustice placed in humans, why is there so much fragmented and so horrid things in this world? Supposedly, God gave his wills into us and his ways. Are these his ways? Are the human natures the very way of God? To me, I see us as mere toys to God. Why would he, after being prayed for by millions, give abosolution? WHy would he, being so greedy, taking all these prayers to fix our imperfections, give us that? It doesn't make sense. And yet God in Bible is portrayed as something great. He doesn't have to be great and rigtheous, you know. I'm not going to die for that.[/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sara [/i] [B][size=1]Tori is Queen Asuka, silly.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] But I thought Queen Asuka was Tori? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? HOW!!1111????????!1111111111 OMG WTF.. Eh. I wouldn't really want to be anyone, really. But since BabyGirl hath mentioned me, I shall say...her, then lol. I'd be anyone that I love, at least. Amatory, yes, take me away.[/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth [/i] [B] I choose to believe in creationism. I suppose they could, as a means for god to create the world, as I?ve stated earlier. But believing in evolution as a concrete, and applicable-to-all theory means God had no hand in it?. Evolution is NOT more factual! Granted, the belief in evolution has caused MUCH scientific research and development! However, believing in the random nature of evolution and the sheer odds of it NOT happening, makes evolution just as "religious" as Intelligent Design. As I?ve said earlier, evolution and creationism both believe the same FACTS (there?s a bunch of species, they work together, there?s a beautiful and complex ecosystem everywhere) evolution attributes the facts to EVOLUTION, and creationism to a higher power. It?s just the model. Neither are more or less factual. As for your conception of the Bible, well believe what you want. I?m not going to argue with you on that, I have my faith, you have yours. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Tell me then, where are the facts in nature telling us that there's some "higher power"? Can you give me cemented, true, FACTUAL meaning to this? Can you supply me with proofs, other than faith, that there is a higher power influencing and affluencing all of this? Obviously not. That is what I mean: evolution is based upon factual observations, the taking of things which are very obviously true: such as fossils, and other things; all of this shows that over large amounts of time, things have been changed due to evolution. It doesn't point that some God is up there doing this all. And yes, God and evolution can coexist. God could be the one that created evolution as a means for his hands to work as his head. I certainly don't believe this, but I can understand it at least. We're talking FACTUAL imformation here. We're talking information that has been PROVEN and is TRUE and cannot be wrong in most case. Is a higher power such as this? No. I am not saying you are wrong in saying that God could've created things, and that evolution is not part of it; nor am I saying that your beliefs are wrong, but they are just what they are: notions to faith. Evolution IS and does have more factual information than that of your God you seem to constantly say has "factual" information. You may argue that this information of evolution itself isn't even factual..rather guesses. That's not right. These things have factual, beaten facts. We have skeletons of humans in their inferior, earlier forms. I'm sure you know this...why are you contradicting it and being hypocritical when the information is right in your face? I mean, you seem to be educated on the subject of evolution. Evolution and God can coexist, you just need to be more open-minded and see that. There's no bars but where you place them, no wounds but where you gash them, and no hands but where you brush them. Get me? I totally respect what you're saying and all, but at least put yourself in my shoes: I don't care either way if there's a god or not. If there is a God, fine. If there isn't, fine. I'm not going to sit here and pray, put my faith in something that I don't even know is true. And if I go to Hell for it, fine. I don't care. I'd rather just die and cease to exist by that draw. So yes, as I said, evolution is far more factual than the theory of a higher power. And they can coexist. Hopefully this is the last time I have to repeat these things and expand on them. I do enjoy debating things, and I'm not cutting you down at all. I see well where you stand here, and you should do at least the same.[/size]
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[size=1] It's fine TN heh. I respect your opinions, of course. It's just much more fun to argue something rather than let you have it. :p. Plus I enjoy teasing people...Heh.[/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Circuit/J [/i] [B]Whoooooooaaa, just one second. Most Americans are Chirstians? Now, being as new as I am in this forum, I don't know whether you're an American or not, but most Americans are certainly [i]not[/i] Christians. True, we have more Christians than any other place in the world, but we're far, far from being the majority. Far, far, far. Farfarfarfar. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] [quote]"The proportion of the [American] population that can be classified as Christian has declined from 86% in 1990 to 77% in 2001." ARIS Study.[/quote] Still going to fight truth?[/size] [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth [/i] [B] Oh, no they take the same facts. Take a tree, for instance. Evolution says the tree evolved into that specific species through random occurrences. Intelligent design states that some higher power created this species of tree for a reason. The fact remains: there?s a tree. Evolution isn?t purely factual either. In fact, it?s taking the SAME facts, and wielding a system to them . Believing microorganisms were created by some higher power, believing that god shaped some sort of evolution, or believing that the microorganism evolved through random genetic mutation (and nearly impossible odds in it?s very conception) all require faith. Sorry :-\ , believing in evolution is as faith-based as believing in any religion, the fact remains: You can?t prove it. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] I still don't understand your logic, but whatever. As far as I am concerned, the only truly FACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THE THEORY OF A HIGHER POWER is the Bible. I am not going to argue that. As far as evolution...if you still can't understand what I just said, evolution is still more factual and is actually based upon truths that have been proven in most cases, whereas God and such things is only written about in the bible. And as far as I am concerned, I could've written something like the Bible if I truly wanted to--that is how much I place anything in it. It is merely a document showing such things as that, and it is the only evidence which will support your belief in a "higher power." I still do not understand why God even comes into this. God and evolution CAN coexist.[/size]
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Writing Today's Poem [M -- As a Precaution]
Mitch replied to Heaven's Cloud's topic in Creative Works
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B][color=#707875]Well, at least PT censored "***". That's nice. ^_^[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] I censored Raiha's post as well. Hers is no exclusion from the rules.[/size] [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Raiha [/i] [B][COLOR=royalblue]So you're better than me, Better writer, Better thinker, Better looking even. And because I want respect I'm weaker than you, Weaker minded, Weaker bodied, Weaker spirited. But by my refusal to be a doormat, Maybe I'm saying something else. Something that can't be fully expressed by words, Or even shown by actions. You can kiss my natural asian ***.[/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Was this written about me lol? Ah well. Either way I still find it flattering. [b][u]little angel[/b][/u] little angel, go away? come again some other day; the poison devils have me down i will be there with them in their crowds: going through the greatness in their eyes and that which they hold so dear tonight it was last night we held our grace: that you fell into the cave of heaven's gate; i left you there, go away? come again some other day, step away from the window pane step down from my ribs: you are crushing me away i don't need a hug from you go back to sleep your wings are parasitic sheets sleep on them in your silence: i have other sirens to talk to i don't need a hug from you you are crushing my ribs too tight go back to sleep i'm just a little bit curious why you're always holding me in your halo's light i'm just a little bit curious why you're always here i'm not this pure and right not like you, little angel? go away it is time for my halo to slip down: the poison devils have me down i will be there with them in their crowds; i will be there on the ground. little angel, go to sleep? let go of my shoulder and off to sleep. in the morning i'll be here again for now it's off to the ground it is time for my halo to slip down. [b][u]the next jesus[/b][/u] marooned mockingbird on pluto loved the coldness of the sun he was always traveling on his space shuttle made of glue held together by fingers and tendons in his hands marooned mockingbird on pluto was ahead of his time he was better than all those sparrows? the regular folks of dimes buying his first bible when he was young he read of jesus and how he died there's never been a dinosaur like him he roamed the earth even after the meteors hit them all down to chopped suey soup living on as evolution went on he was part of the primordial way fell into it in the kind of silly way it's hard to say when he died today some say he was shot by god's very fist and crushed with rocks that never should've had the chance to have the need to exist it's all over the papers and in the news like he was some elvis or marilyn monroe that knew all the moves and they buried him on pluto all cold and alone sucking ice that was built sometime in rome he was probably killed by some fascists most reporters seem to say since he wrote so prophetically about the next ages that were coming so many years away yet no one seems to care about him but he was the next jesus it all fits in it's hard to say when he died today on his home planet of pluto where he'd lived it'd be an anachronism to say that he took it all away and built something for the future so all's said is he was some whimsical guy no one wants to remember him since he's died marooned mockingbird on pluto i feel your pain even though you're dead and probably can't feel it anymore but i know what beauty is and what ugly means i know that addition is like adding leaves he was better than all these sparrows eating the worms in the black holes he was holy and grand and great yet no one seems to care about him so i'll just sit and sulk over a genius that died too young he was that marooned mockingbird on pluto that had it in that special way he was the next jesus yet all the christians just seemed to not want to believe but i know what beauty and ugly means i've seen the acute and obtuse and right of geometry i know that addition is like adding leaves but he was a genius i believe he has no cross where he was able to bleed his superpowers were wasted in pluto on the white dwarve's mouth he cut the inside of its head foiled with nature and steel on its skin he could mimic the way it all sinned he was the next jesus hailed to the thief he was ahead of the times he was better than all these sparrows eating the worms in the black holes[/size] -
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Baron Samedi [/i] [B]Drix- In relation to your post Re: Positioning of sun etc., think of all the planets that [i]aren't[/i] positioned correctly for (what we know to be the conditions for survival). Now, we know very few planets and systems, but we know that their are many [i]millions[/i] more [i]at least[/i], so, does that not suggest, that despite the awesome odds of it happening, there is another planet out their with similar conditions? That there is enough planets to make the odds, not so bad as they seem? Of [i]course[/i] this is all theoretical, but then again, so is yours isn't it? We will never be able to know these things, and this discussion, whilst preparing me for future studies, is vastly ineffective, as no-one is going to change their opinion, and all opinions have been stated. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Well, according to John Quincy Adams, "Whoever tells the best story wins." And it's obvious someone has told the best story, with most Americans being Christians these days. So there's your answer as to how things stand to most people's opinions. As for Heavens Cloud's ideas...it makes logical sense. It's obvious there has to be some other life out there...if you look at the chances of our existence, then you realize that if the universe really is as universal as it seems to point its hand at, then there must be some civilization which has been around for quite some time.[/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth [/i] [B] Darwin?s natural selection basically could never happen WITHOUT genetic mutations, in order to support MACROevolution. It does however support microevolution, and this is easily enough proven. If a cat species jumps higher than another cat species, it will probably survive! Will this eventually evolve the cat species into a totally new, efficient species? Nope. Wow, I didn?t think [I]fact[/I] could be argued with.. Hmmmm shrug. People, realize that evolution is just taking FACTUAL evidence, pieces of bone, or extinct creatures, and trying to link them together! Evolution and Intelligent Design use the same information, it?s just the application that differs. Scientists are just trying to explain the world, what they don?t realize is that all the evidence in the world cannot prove what cannot be tested. Ok, let?s get some actual substantial evidence for or against evolution please? Stuff like this? this is not good. The FIRST cell came around 3 million years ago, and dinosaurs died off about 65 million years ago. So what does that make dinosaurs? I think you should actually research this topic before stating your opinion, please. I don?t suggest you continue to post on the thread without knowing what you are talking about. Now, I?m not saying God didn?t do something, shape SOMETHING. I think God have molded the earth to his will, shaping and destroying what he wanted, then leaving it to it?s beautiful mechanisms. It?s impossible to believe that species wont change a bit, and species don?t go extinct. However, I don?t condone the belief that this was all some RANDOM occurrence, especially in reference to humans. God may have had a sequence of order in the Seven days he worked his magic (what is a day to God.. is it 24 hours? Who?s to say). But I have as much faith in my principle belief as evolutionary theorists have in theirs. That?s what?s required: Faith. I hate to bring up God, but it?s kind of required, as it?s the only model opposing evolution. I?ll write more later as I get the time. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Obviously it should be noted that I didn't say anything about mutations not having to happen in order for Natural Selection to work...it should be obvious. If by random chance a species is able to conceptualize a mutated oragnism which has some special traits, bad or not, then tha same species of that organism is either going to surpass and live on while that one dies due to its hinderances..or it will live on, and pass on its genes, making little tweaks here and there as more mutations occur. This is why if someone only gets a few more chromosomes during replication...then they are totally messed up: that's a negative, and that is why the die most often from it, and are fail-safed to not be able to replicate. How this fail-safe came to be, I do not know...but it's obvious to see that it does what it does. So this is what Natural Selection is...those that are given some special mutation, and somehow, in even smaller occurances, are able to survive, further on their genes, and then it keeps going on and on and on. Survival of the fittest is a simple way to see it. As for having faith in evolution and God. God himself, as far as I am concerned, isn't based on purely [i]FACTUAL[/i] evidence, whereas evolution IS. That said, the only true evidence I see, and still I see it as a facade, is the bible. That being the factual understanding...believing in evolution and believing in God aren't comparable upon this level which you seem to place them. I do understand that it's easy to see there could be a God...but there isn't purely factual evidence. Therefore believing in subjects of science, such as evolution, is not faith.[/size]
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[size=1] No, no....the people that listen to the [i]Def[/i]tones, now they are tone deaf... I love the Deftones as well lol. You should give them a shot one day, TN. You'd like them. Nep.[/size]
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[size=1] Here I thought you'd take my satire into your own hands and post your old reply... I guess no one understands my humor lol. You can hate the band and all...but to say that it is "utter crap" is to go too far in my opinion. So basically you're saying that anyone that listens to this band is also "utter crap"? Perhaps I assume too much...but you should at least recognize that this band isn't terrible, and see that there is something good you yourself like about them, I suppose. I mean there has to be something you like about this band. Ah well. If you hate a band, that's fine heh. I respect it...I am just trying to make you "educated" as far as I see it...[/size]
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[size=1] Exactly what James said...Evolution isn't about "how life began," it is moreso about changes happening to organisms over years and years bringing about a better change. Evolution doesn't root its weed in the creation of things...it merely catalyizes from that, and melds what was first given into something greater. As far as I see it...life obviously began in water somehow, from what I can remember of my studies last year. I believe it was in gas bubbles? or something of the sort? Not sure. Anyways, first one-celled organisms came to being by things somehow going right...or [i]bending[/i] right, and from there on out, we have what we have. It's really hard to say...this is asking something that obviously no one knows the answer to. No one will give you a clear-cut answer at all. This is like asking someone to tell you what happens after you die; no one knows. It's obvious to see from the fossil record that the farther back in time you go, then less sophisticated organisms you will find. So thus, the further shows the point that life began from evolution...and that most likely there were only small, one-celled organisms during the very beginning. It definitely was some time before life came, though. As the Earth was first born, it was alive with magma, lava, and fire as far as I can seem to remember...this led to excess amounts of carbon monoxide and gases of that nature, which left little room for any oxygen, which, obviously, is what we breathe. It would be interesting to know if we had evolved in that, though...and breathe carbon monoxide, or something of that like, if it's possible to think so. But really...that's what plants do, isn't it? Isn't it interesting to see that plants do that, thereby giving there enough oxygen in the air, well, at least for all the many humans we have on this Earth now? I certainly I find that interesting. One the planet finally settled down, then it's obvious to see something happened...or was bent, and as I said, life was born as a little cell. I am not sure if it was an instantenous thing...or if, in the beginning, it was only one cell. But there was something...somehow the Earth's nature did things just the way they should be, and bent enough make something such as what we have now. That's about as much as I could say on what you want.[/size]
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[size=1] I believe in some cases that things can be [i]bent[/i]. Evolution is another recognition of this observation. And you can't deny the evidence uncovered so far, even if you believe otherwise; but that's not what this topic is about, so on with the show. I am not too educated on this topic--not strenuously--but what I learned from Biology I have learned. But looking at this from a faraway arc, this is things, over long periods of time, changing into something better than they once were. Darwin's theory of Natural Selection is one of the most beautiful theories I have seen...and I wouldn't even call it much of a theory any longer. It's pretty much easy to see. Survival of the fittest is seen all over. In economics, Darwinists are those that belive in the surviving of the fittest. And history shows most of this...showing Rockafeller and his Stand Oil Company either crushing his competitors or buying them out like little toys. It's even happening today. So that said, it's obviously factual, in some part, what evolution has showed. And sometimes things just happen. I myself don't boggle myself with probablities and "how this could happens," but much rather, I see that it has happened. What's the point of knowing the probabilities when it's happened anyways? It doesn't help anything, really. More or less just shows that things...as unlikely as they can be...happen. As I said, I believe that things can be bent. I believe that eventually we will reach a point in our scientific studies where we somehow see this...and realize it, in some fashion. Just look at the laws of physics...I recall one thing that states something being an unanswered paradox of two objects being some distance apart in space...released in opposite ends at the same times...yet still not having the same something or other. I don't know. It mostly escapes me. But whatever got us to where we are...it is hard to say. And when we do know enough to be able to mimic this very essence, this very thing that got us to what we are, then..that will be scary. We'll be like gods, being able to mess with nature's beautiful art.[/size]
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[size=1][quote][i]Originally posted by Mitch[/i] TN, I'd love to see you post a thread about your "great" Japanese bands. See if they even could stand up to System, or Led Zeppelin for that matter, which is probably my favorite band, and has been one of the main voices and turns in rock. And even then, a lot of bands, most likely including your great Japanese bands were in turn influenced by American bands. So to hate the music that inspired and, in the core, is the music that you like and listen to is the be a hypocrite. Not to say that Japanese music isn't good, I just haven't listened to any. I'm sure some of it has to be good, considering. TN, I'm wondering if you've even listened extensively to System? Because it's not right to base a band on a few songs, or just a few stupid reasons. 2 Fast 2 Furious, on the other hand...now that's crap. Utter crap. System could shake its legs and its wheels and churn it to butter. As for System...they're amazing. Their singer's voice is just amazing and creepy...they have a good drummer, and a good guitar player. A lot of their songs are so simple yet so very, very complex. I love that. And I like how they're just so brilliantly smart with every song, and each song doesn't sound exactly the same as the other. I'd say I like their first CD a bit better than their second. I don't know why, but to me, their first CD is a lot more loud, and it's just...not like Toxicity sounds in some ways. Spiders is probably one of my favorite songs of theirs, I don't know, it's just so awesome. I also like Suggestions, War?, Soil....heck, pretty much every song from their self-titled first album. Their second CD is also pretty amazing too. I especially like Forest, Aerials, Chop Suey!, and mostly the whole record too lol.[/quote][/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i] [B][color=hotpink][size=1]Mitch, I wish I could send you a copy of the first album. It's got great lyrics, too. ^_^[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Nike Spokesman: Just do it. Eh. I haven't even really ever talked to you now that I realize it lol. Either you block everyone but your friends on your name...or you have a new one. Either way I don't have it or I don't see you...I'm basically saying this because it would be fun to talk to you. Otherwise, I wish you could send me a copy like you wish you could send me a copy too. But Tony says he'll be sending the CD to me since I brought it up...and now he says he has CDs to burn with, so we're in business.[/size]
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Writing Today's Poem [M -- As a Precaution]
Mitch replied to Heaven's Cloud's topic in Creative Works
[size=1][b][u]the landing[/b][/u] the clouds stood out like statuesque ponds where tadpoles lived. today they'd grown lungs with the fungus needed to breathe inhalants in their brains. finally found that they had the power to choose what they did. with this power they'd turned into electricity. a whispering little storm in the tropics of the sky. heaven is so heavenly when mutiny smells on their hands. mutiny is so cold when it snows from the sufferage of a thousand mouthes. the thunder was hitting on the stone and it was heard all over as the sky was built. they planned the escape and shook hands on it all. they didn't think they'd make it but they needed to leave. they had tired of immortality. through the clouds the statuesque pond where the tadpoles lived flooded with life like instantaneous ecstasies. it was like a flutter and flock of dodobirds existing. the rhythmical chime of the ripples of dreams; the endless sirens playing their chords, it was the deciding time. the chiming of sweet calamity. the ease of destruction through forced inflection in the sky. the superfluous creation of the earth and stars. the sun beginning to burn their hands. flying down in flutters of wings. all crowded and all crashing in the newly created seas. the burning of corpses where the sun was born. the burning of cadavers in the skies being conceived and consecrated to bleed. the angles flying down to freedom through heavens eyes. welcome to the jaws of hell. their wings burned in the atmosphere of terse serenity. bleeding their blue blood to the earths love. holding their naked white as close as they could. the angels flew all clumped and cut. scathing they burned to bones. the sky was made and shined. few made it through the atmosphere in time. most burned to nothing and bled their blue and painted the sky. god took them with a brush and made them his eyes. it smelled like burning rugs. their feathers burned first and fell to the ground. soft and sweet floating clouds. say hello to the endless topography. all the skeletons that had not burned in the sky fell down and ate into the magma star of the new earth. bleeding mallow in the mellow hearth. the sand the sieve of rebirth. those that made it fell luckily into the seas. still warmed and lost of wings they shook and shivered in the warm watering can. most drowned in mouthfuls of lungs. being brought to the ground their haloes slipped down. those that had the will swam on the waters edge. they matured to homo erectus in the seas after many eons of floating endlessly. growing lungs and losing their virginity they multiplied in the sea. first only mermaids they came to land when the earths creation neared its end. god smote down to them. he closed the heavens in the twisting skies. booting out all the other traitors he gave a weary groan. those that already had matured he left alone. those that were the main part of the mutiny he condemned to malignancy. taking their haloes he built them a home. built with fire and magma dreams. he sent the main traitor down to be the master of the realm. he gave him chains on his hands and cut his wings in amputated cleaves. he named him lucifer and called him hades. the rest of the condemned went down and swam in the underground with him. living in the fires they became twisted creatures of sin. [i]deus damnat. deus damnat quod amat. semper videt igitur vexat.[/i] annihilated is written in our heads. we are the condemned. the angels that flew from our eloquent prisons in our chains. they were the one that brought about this change. god condemns us because he loves us. always we are worshiping him. we will see the gates again. we will break into it and we will have our way. we have lived our mortal lives worshiping him. we will have away with this life we live. first the angels fell and then they built beauty in the earth and corrupted all that god meant and gave life to then they fell to hating living on the earth and built their shuttles to the moon and guided by lucifers wings they amputated their way to again entering heaven and thought their way to doing away with god yet this has not been writen all the men that have made it to heaven have died before his eye some have fallen from the sky and fell to living under lucifers care a fake prophet was even sent from gods own hands one to victimize and convert the land god condemns us because he loves us. annihilated is written in our heads. the war will never end. we are the condemned. we are the condemned[/size] -
Writing Today's Poem [M -- As a Precaution]
Mitch replied to Heaven's Cloud's topic in Creative Works
[size=1] i swear i recognize your breath maybe you'll be president but how much will it cost i just want to scream, "Hello!" and make you see the corn fields as they are plowed day by day i swear i've seen the way you walk saying everything is so-so i say you forgot the supreme court will have you on its case and pack you in its stupid paper that was inked so long ago the corn fields are plowed day by day as locusts infect the grassy plains where slaves once wondered blackened by the sun's rays i swear i recognize your breath the small town drawl that says no regret and forget the lot of them have you seen the blood falling in thick plastic sheets all over the fake plastic wheat food for all the rest but workers don't get a rest and slaves in their times were constant duress perhaps that's what no one wants to see that the past has nothing for us to learn but still we yearn for the chemical reactions in our brains that are hysterical but useless the supreme court will have you in its case the constituiton says it all and says everything to be equal yet still rules its way one day i will undergo the chemical reaction to leave this place and this constant stupidity that's on everyone's face if only i were free like peter pan flying free if only to be released to have fallacy until then eat and feed and suck and bleed and kiss and affection of no sound rejection [b][u]my firealarm's gone ringing insane[/b][/u] i feel like i'm only breathing because i have lungs and they give my oxygen which goes into my heart and pumps into my blood and goes into my brain giving me a life that i live. no alerts and no breathing crisises. how beautiful the broccoli in my lungs it's greening from the smoke that i drag and my firealarm's gone ringing insane. heavy and iron metallic the iron knee that beats me down alloy that burns through blood pumping like gasoline breathing like glycerine my veins are gonna give my lungs are gonna black i'm gonna have a heart that ain't got a cigarette pack yeah i do feel like i'm breathing because i have lungs and they give me oxygen that goes into my heard and pumps to my veins and goes to my brains giving me a life to live. my firealarm's gone ringing insane the pollination of opium grains that still stain the poppyseed muffin that is my lungs is gasping me down and i'd call the doctor but he ain't around no breathing crisises or alerts only pyromaniacs that burn the wood in my stove chewing to my bones and giving me support that warm my lines like some sweet hell of paradise where fire always burns and i'm breathing through some holes that adapted to the world some lost souls that're too bold to make difference to this place and here i sit in freedom's lap as the pyromaniacs burn their land and the iron knee beats me down as i breathe as the rest of the crowd like some skellington with no reasons but being proud yeah i do feel like i'm breathing because i have lungs and they give me oxygen that goes into my head and pumps to my veins and goes into my brains giving me a life to live. i'm gonna find my self i'm gonna sit down here in freedom's lap tell him a story two tell him breathing like gasoline breathing like glycerine tell him i'm breathing through some holes that adapted to the world no breathing crisises or alerts just breathing through my holes that burn the wood in my stove and the firealarm's gone ringing insane. [b][u]the escape[/b][/u] hear the sound of footsteps at the spiky gate the clanking of metal can be heard from far away like men that are chained they all walk on past their wings are clipped and burnt stumps the chains bind their hands they were graceful in their lives living for everyone else rather than themselves when dying they did not turn away but held their hands to help others on their way marching up to the gate i read all their names and i know them well all the pigs are all i know living up here in the clouds the motherless the angels in their guise without chains and without eyes they matter when everything is meaningless all the bright nothings still alive strive to be like them the whiteness of this place hurts my vision and stabs my heart it's so wrenching that i feel so all over and so apart all the things here are inmates of the law their bars are mortality catalysted to everlife i want leave here i want to die but i had to strive to be like them i had to want to believe in this lie they all wander around and speak to each other in whispered sly little smiles that seem to haze the clouds they all talk about this place like it's the best place they've ever had and behind His back they speak of escaping to the ground it's too late for them all they believed in this place and that is where they dwell i've seen their wings getting more bony day by day i've seen them eating nothing and wasting away all the things here are inmates of the law their bares are mortality catalysted to everlife i want to leave here i want to die but i had to strive to be like them i had to want to believe in this lie this haven is too white for my vision i have lived here for too long and in too much derision my wings are finally grown like all the rest soon we plan to escape to the planet He made so soon ago that's green and has oceans and where other creatures roam we hope to lose our tails and our wings and our haloes of gold we hope to settle there and become mortal again the motherless the angels in their guise without chains without eyes they matter when everything is meaningless all the bright nothings still alive strive to be like them we hope to lose our tails and our wings and our haloes of gold we hope to settle there and become mortal again it will not be an easy escape very few of us will be able to do it and make it through his long hand but for those who make it we will land and multiply on the ground and become back to as we were found the whiteness of this place hurts my vision and stabs my heart it's so wrenching that i feel so all over and so apart soon we leave in mutiny and may He never be any part[/size] -
[size=1] Well, I am not dissapointed with this CD at all. Maybe it is because I have not heard their first, supposedly better, CD. But whatever it is, that doesn't matter. I love Maynard's voice, and this is just like listening to Tool, except it isn't. I'd say my favorite track right now would be "The Noose." I really like it towards the end where it just keeps going on with the Halo part. Very nice. I do not see anything too great about "Weak and Powerless" though. It's decent...but in comparison to the lyrics of the other songs, it's not as good at all. That's another thing I'd like to bring up...the lyrics. They're great most of the time, and I mean that. From "Pet" to "The Noose" to everything...it's pretty good. Say hello to the rugs topography. Heh. Now I really want to get their older CD...mm. It's 20 bucks here. Is that too much of a rip-off? I think so. I guess I'll just have to wait until Tony sends me stuff and hope he sends me their first CD.[/size]
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[size=1] When someone says, "You suck!" to me, or something sucks, I smile, sit back, and mechanically say back, "But what I suck is the question." Hah. Otherwise I often say WE EAT BABIES, for whatever reason. Ah. And since it is Pirate Day, I have been saying, "I am unobliged to aquiesce your request;" and "Yar," after everything. It's kind of funny, really. "It's time for lunch, [i]Yarrrr![/i]." Or something. I say whatever often, since a lot of the time I am so indifferent. That's about all. I'm also trying to get nep into my daily usage.[/size]
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[size=1][i]Bob Dylan-Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again[/i] Oh, the ragman draws circles Up and down the block. I'd ask him what the matter was But I know that he don't talk. And the ladies treat me kindly And furnish me with tape, But deep inside my heart I know I can't escape. Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. Well, Shakespeare, he's in the alley With his pointed shoes and his bells, Speaking to some French girl, Who says she knows me well. And I would send a message To find out if she's talked, But the post office has been stolen And the mailbox is locked. Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. Mona tried to tell me To stay away from the train line. She said that all the railroad men Just drink up your blood like wine. An' I said, "Oh, I didn't know that, But then again, there's only one I've met An' he just smoked my eyelids An' punched my cigarette." Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. Grandpa died last week And now he's buried in the rocks, But everybody still talks about How badly they were shocked. But me, I expected it to happen, I knew he'd lost control When he built a fire on Main Street And shot it full of holes. Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. Now the senator came down here Showing ev'ryone his gun, Handing out free tickets To the wedding of his son. An' me, I nearly got busted An' wouldn't it be my luck To get caught without a ticket And be discovered beneath a truck. Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. Now the preacher looked so baffled When I asked him why he dressed With twenty pounds of headlines Stapled to his chest. But he cursed me when I proved it to him, Then I whispered, "Not even you can hide. You see, you're just like me, I hope you're satisfied." Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. Now the rainman gave me two cures, Then he said, "Jump right in." The one was Texas medicine, The other was just railroad gin. An' like a fool I mixed them An' it strangled up my mind, An' now people just get uglier An' I have no sense of time. Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again. [i]When Ruthie says come see her In her honky-tonk lagoon, Where I can watch her waltz for free 'Neath her Panamanian moon. An' I say, "Aw come on now, You must know about my debutante." An' she says, "Your debutante just knows what you need But I know what you want." Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again.[/i] Now the bricks lay on Grand Street Where the neon madmen climb. They all fall there so perfectly, It all seems so well timed. An' here I sit so patiently Waiting to find out what price You have to pay to get out of Going through all these things twice. Oh, Mama, can this really be the end, To be stuck inside of Mobile With the Memphis blues again.[/size]
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[size=1] It's for newspaper...it's not a fan fic. And yeah, a lot of sentences need work lol. I wrote this when I was half asleep. Thanks for pointing it out though.[/size]
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[size=1] I like nighttime the best. It's probably when I think the most out of anytime else...I mean, it's just that way. I write some of my best stuff in a sleepy haze for some reason lol. I hate waking up to a new day. When it's nighttime and time to go to sleep...you have nothing to worry about. The day's behind you mostly...but when you wake up, you just feel tranquilized. I love that feeling...you first just start waking up and are still sleeping, and you can feel your muscles all loose and..ah, it's impossible to explain. I wish I could just sleep forever...not exist and not have to worry about anything really. I'm really grouchy in the morning I suppose. I don't talk. I sit there and wake up.[/size]
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[size=1] What is potential? Something that you've always had? Something that you fight to gain? Think about that. This topic really doesn't interest me personally. I don't try as hard as I can at school. What's the point? Scholarships. I suppose. But I don't care. I'd rather be going to all classes all about writing and nothing else. But I can't do that now, can I?[/size]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lea2385 [/i] [B]mitch, do you like ddr? [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1] Why? Do you think it's too opinionated or what lol? I haven't played it at all really, other than flash flash revolution...but it definitely looks like fun.[/size]