Zidargh Posted December 19, 2002 Posted December 19, 2002 Welcome everyone, welcome to Zidane's lecture... lol. Well for some reason, I was thinking during the 'ole Helm's Deep process in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, just why all Black Mages have darkened face with bright yellow eyes that come out of no where. I've got a theory that Black Mages have been conjured ou of darkness to tangle the elemental logic of the universe so they end up pretty much... nothingness, with yellow eyes. I just thought this forums needed an interesting topic, so what do you think?
Flash Posted December 19, 2002 Posted December 19, 2002 Or maybe there's just not alot of light on their faces, due to the shadow from the hat. I've always thought that their faces were black due to some kind of Shroud that appears once they become Black mages, or something. To signify that they're a black mage, ya know?
Desbreko Posted December 20, 2002 Posted December 20, 2002 [color=indigo]Yeah, I always just thought you couldn't see their face because of the shadow the heavy robe and hat makes, since they block most of their face. As for the glowing eyes, maybe that's a side effect of all the dark magical energy? Kinda like how in FFVII, being exposed to large amounts of Mako energy kinda made your eyes glow a bit.[/color]
Semjaza Posted December 20, 2002 Posted December 20, 2002 I figured the glowing eyes were just there in FF1 so you could see they actually somewhat had a face, rather than just some black area... Of course, FF9 turned them into something else entirely, so who knows anymore.
Corey Posted December 22, 2002 Posted December 22, 2002 FF 9 Theory- the Dark Faces and Bright eyes are side effects from the Mist.
Sandy Posted December 25, 2002 Posted December 25, 2002 I thought the black mages in FF9 were [spoiler]merely Brahne's and Kuja's doll's, Vivi being the proto-type...[/spoiler] Well, maybe I was just too busy admiring the views, so that I missed some of the plot-twists... :rolleyes:
spike speigel Posted December 26, 2002 Posted December 26, 2002 I think that the black mages have the black faces because of the shadows from their hats and robes. I really have no idea about the yellow eyes, though. Square probably just added them for effect.
stratigyless Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 It could probbably show a sign that that charecter is a black mage or... maybe like spike speigal said just for the affect
Progressive Posted January 10, 2003 Posted January 10, 2003 I agree with Flash, I think that a shroud of mist appears to signify that he is a black mage... *Shrugs* But what do I know?
zidane11 Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 I'm pretty sure that their faces are black but not because of a shadow. It's been a while but I recall seeing vivi's face as he looked up at the sky. It can't always be shrouded because of his hat and stuff, that just wouldn't make since. I guess the yellow eyes are just because that's how they were made. Haven't any of you seen Yuna's eyes? I don't think her magic changed them, but then again anybody elses guess is just as good as mine.
Axel--Ignition Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 Hah! I pointed out Yuna's eyes to you! Anyways, I recall that scene too, in Alexandria. The shape of his head was rounded. Like that was his real head. Plus, all the times he looked up and was still black. Also when there were lights on the floor at one point, wouldn't his head be revealed? On the same account, in older games, like 1 and 5, you can see that the mages are human. In FFT they even have hair! Well, that should start a fun arguement...
spike speigel Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Axel--Ignition [/i] [B]On the same account, in older games, like 1 and 5, you can see that the mages are human. [/B][/QUOTE] Well of course their humans. What else would they be? Sure, there's a few other things then humans they could be, but none of them are really that good. Here's a few examples of human black mages: [list] [*]In FF5, one of the jobs on the job system is black mage. How would a human transform from a person to some other race just to use black magic? [*]In FF 10, Lulu is a black mage, and she just looks like a normal human. No hat or cloak, either. [*]In FF2, the black mage is just a regular human who can use magic [/list] See, they're humans.
Corey Posted January 12, 2003 Posted January 12, 2003 Oohhh.. Forgot about this. [spoiler]The BM's in FF IX were made from the Mist being sprayed on some Eggs. Their eyes may be sideeffects from that.[/spoiler]
Flash Posted January 12, 2003 Posted January 12, 2003 Well here's the _technical_ answer. In FF1, there was only a limited number of colours per sprite (four in fact--One of them being a transperant layer). The Black Mage has A Mustardy Yellow for his Hat/Hands/Eyes, A Darker yellow for the shading on his hat, and a blue. So back then, the BM was the way he was for limitations on colour--And it worked. Why change a good thing, right?
Spikey Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 [COLOR=blue]Well I just thought they had no face, it was just shadow from the hat. It could be something else, I think the theory about the mist sounds resonable. I've never really thougt about it. It could be the shoadow, it could be the mist thing. But I just play the game, I don't think about it much.[/color]
Sniglefager Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 yes, thinking is bad for the brain. But, if it was the color thing, they could have changed it for the other games. And I'll know someone'll say "But why would they do that if it worked?" They just could've, ok? And they did, in FFX, as someone mentioned before, Lulu's a black mage. So, yeah, they have to be human. That doesn't really make sense in Vivi's case I know, but bear with me
Gelgoog Pilot Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 Sniglefager does have a piont with lulu, she was human but in FIX the black mages were like stolen souls or somthing they were dolls, when i first got to the black mage villiage i remember hearing that the black mages were dying out after a short time i think because they were artificially made but whatever i just scare myself when i get this into it. lol
GinnyLyn Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 [color=royal blue]*is royally confused now* Well, seeing how each FF game takes place in a different world (I assume), the rules are prolly different for each world. You'll notice that Chocobos differ from world to world. And the number and type of Summons fluctuate. Or it's just the game makers, like Flash said. :p As far as Yuna's eyes, I always thought she had those 'cause she was [spoiler]half Al Bhed and half...whatever else there is.[/spoiler] Nothing to do with her magic, really. I'm surprised Wakka never noticed, either. [/color]
conpiracymonki Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 [b][size=1]Some people in real life have two different coloured eyes. Maybe they just decided to make a fresh new character look? I dunno. And black mages.. maybe they just wanted them to look y'know..slightly dark or something? As in destructive-type dark? And then after that, depending on the character of the black mage, they'd just change the look. Like in FF5..it could easily just be some sort of uniform. And in FF9, Vivi's a created thing, so he's fine like that. But in FF10, it'd be odd having a human looking unhumanish, and..[/b] ...I lost myself in all of it...but I think you know what I meant >__<[/size]
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