Population overwhelming?!?

[AutoKill]

I tend to think about things like population in the world. As most people know Japan has had to make changes to keep population of people in check. I feel that soon or government (United States of America) will have to do the same. When colonist first came to this continent the last thing they worried about was overpopulating. Sense then the only thing that has kept population from multiplying is war, and disease. ( :(Sorry this may seem cruel to think about the mass death of people:( )
But after the turn of the millennium I feel that there is no longer fear in terrible disease and war. (For the most part) I feel that population may be a new valid topic for us to be thinking about. After all, we aren?t much like animals and have certain seasons to mate and populate.

[COLOR=darkred]Please tell me your opinion on this topic..[/COLOR] :worried:

[Baron Samedi]

[center][u][b]My World Plan[/u][/b][/center]


Invade Russia and kill everyone, and send all our criminals/politicians over there.

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Yeah, that'll free up some space. I think it'll work.

It isn't too much of a worry right now. Look at all the space we have over here in Australia. The problem is all the familys that had eight kids last generation. I don't think any more than three children should be allowed. I don't know. Two or three children, to keep our population consistent.

Thats my take on it. I don't think iit is [i]too[/i] much of a concern right now.

[Mitch]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Baron Samedi [/i]
[B][center][u][b]My World Plan[/u][/b][/center]


Invade Russia and kill everyone, and send all our criminals/politicians over there.

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Yeah, that'll free up some space. I think it'll work.

It isn't too much of a worry right now. Look at all the space we have over here in Australia. The problem is all the familys that had eight kids last generation. I don't think any more than three children should be allowed. I don't know. Two or three children, to keep our population consistent.

Thats my take on it. I don't think iit is [i]too[/i] much of a concern right now. [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1] I have a better plan....bahahah. BOMB CHINA TO DAVY JONE'S LOCKER. BAHHAHAHAHAHHHHA......that would take a few billion lives.

Yes, the world is becoming overcrowded. And eventually...in a far off future far away, humans shall be massacered for the sole fact of being human and being alive.

I see bloody revolutions, devolutions...the DEMEATING of thighs and legs! Oh, glory be bloody mary and her name....glory be. Amen. A men.

Anyways, I see that either we stop having so much sex and babies, or we start dying. This is in the far off future, though.[/size]

[Queen Asuka]

[color=hotpink][size=1]Actually I think that women aren't having as much babies as they used to due to new technology in women's contraceptives, also known as birth control.

I think it is so awful how in China they will abort a female child if they would rather have a male since they are limited to two children. It's horrible...[/color][/size]

[Evisoun]

Isn't most of our population made up of old people? And since couples only want one or two kids, there will probably be a population decline in a hundred years or something like that. Am I right at least partially?

[quote]I think it is so awful how in China they will abort a female child if they would rather have a male since they are limited to two children. It's horrible...[/quote]

Are you pro-life (abortion)?

[Mitch]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i]
[B][color=hotpink][size=1]Actually I think that women aren't having as much babies as they used to due to new technology in women's contraceptives, also known as birth control.

I think it is so awful how in China they will abort a female child if they would rather have a male since they are limited to two children. It's horrible...[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1] This doesn't mean the world's population isn't growing. 6 Billion. Do you know how much that is? Try to comprehend it. I can't. Birth control methods have been around for years...who cares. There's been the pill, the condom, and other such things. I don't see contraceptives as too big of a new thing, even if. Here's some stolid fact to support what I've said heh.

[quote]The world's current growth rate is about 1.3%, representing a doubling time of 54 years. We can expect the world's population of approximately 6 billion to become 12 billion by 2054 if the current rate of growth continues. The world's growth rate peaked in the 1960s at 2% and a doubling time of 35 years.[/quote]

12 billion?!?! Do you know how much that is? I don't either, but trust me, I can tell you, that's a lot. That's 6,000,000,000+6,000,000,000. [/size]

[Queen Asuka]

[color=hotpink][size=1]Yes, I'm pro-life, but of course, it's hard to be strictly one or the other (in other words, I'm not an extremist). I only believe in it if it endangers the mother's life or the woman was raped. That's about it.

But I just think it's sad that they just wont accept having a female and will give it up so they can have a male. It just seems so inhumane.

And Mitch, contraceptives do matter. Now they have the shot. You only have to have the shot once every three months. And no pills or condoms to worry about.[/color][/size]

[Mitch]

[size=1] It might matter in that there are more methods, but really, it's stopping the same thing as before: the conception of a child. So it has not helped generally in the limiting of child births, as the pills and such have been around for years. Another thing is I'd hope people are more educated about sex, and thus just this alone would limit the amount of births. So generally what you're saying doesn't pertain to anything much other than there are more ways to do the same thing.[/size]

[James]

[color=#707875]The world isn't becoming overcrowded.

In fact, the problem is quite the opposite in many ways.

In Japan, fewer and fewer people are having children. And families are growing smaller. Senior citizens are taking up a larger proportion of the population. As a result, the Japanese Government has actually been trying to [i]encourage[/i] more young people to have children.

The same is true in Australia. Senior citizens are a growing sector of the population, women are having children later in life, they're having less children and many are having none at all.

This is also starting to become a problem in the United States, as well as other places. When you have a very large population of seniors, the minority are then forced to financially support the majority. It obviously becomes very difficult.

One might say that populations are getting too high in the third world or something...where various problems (like famine and AIDS) are already so accute. But this idea that we're going to kill ourselves by having too many babies is pretty false, based on all the reports I've seen over recent years.[/color]

[GrimmFang]

The world is kind of crowded we have to little wilderness left to prove it. If you think about this the planet seems to agree. Some of these viruses and such just keep popping up as if the planet is like saying their are to many of you some of you need to die.

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by GrimmFang [/i]
[B]The world is kind of crowded we have to little wilderness left to prove it. If you think about this the planet seems to agree. Some of these viruses and such just keep popping up as if the planet is like saying their are to many of you some of you need to die. [/B][/QUOTE]

Excuse me while I go hug a tree...

Honestly, the united states has more forest NOW than it did in 1900... we are planting trees, we are learning from our mistakes, and we are building up the wilderness again.

You know what's ironic? I belive that alot of the green-peacers are evolutionists right? Well, those that are, obviously belive in the "survival of the fittest." If that's so, why do they continually vie to protect endangered animals, obviously they aren't "fit" enough to survive anyway.

Back onto the topic of overpopulation... well, I don't think the earth is THAT crowded at all, there are plenty of places to get lost in. I mostly agree with James on this issue. Unfortunately, war and disease will probably play the largest part in human population "control". As medicine cures deaseases, meaner ones come around.

We should nuke africa... it's given us Hanta, AIDS, Smallpox (it origionated in northern africa according to pathologists), and threatens to give the world a nice pandemic of Ebola, possibly. Oh yeah, I'm serious too..

[Evisoun]

[quote]If that's so, why do they continually vie to protect endangered animals, obviously they aren't "fit" enough to survive anyway.[/quote]
Because with guns and people who know how to use it, no animal is fit to survive. It's not a natural process that kills them (the weather, other animals killing them for their own survival, etc), but people and machines. And it's not for food.

Our lack of wilderness only proves that people want more than they need. Most of the resources from forests aren't going to people who actually need them, and they make up the majority of the population.

If any of what I said was incorrect, please correct me. My environmental science text book was probably biased.

[Manic Webb]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=#707875]This is also starting to become a problem in the United States, as well as other places. When you have a very large population of seniors, the minority are then forced to financially support the majority. It obviously becomes very difficult.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]
Not to go off topic, but this reminds me of an episode of the TV show [i]Sliders[/i]. In one episode, they entered an alternate Earth where, during the 1980s, the US government discovered that social security would ruin the economy in the long run. In result, all people over the age of 30 are forced into retirement.

I'm also reminded of the film [i]Logan's Run[/i]. In the distant future, resources have become so scant, that the population has very strict controls. All people have timers implanted in their hands that activate once they turn 30 years old. All people over 30 are forced to participate in a "cleansing" ceremony, which is basically a mass killing. I forget most of the movie, but I think either nobody was allowed to have sex or they were only allowed to conceive with assigned people. I really don't remember.

Just a little something to chew on.

[eleanor]

[size=1] A girl at an academic camp suggested cannibalism to solve the population problem.

It's ironic to have an over-population problem when you look at the number of people who die each year.[/size]

[Dagger]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i]
[B][color=hotpink][size=1]And Mitch, contraceptives do matter. Now they have the shot. You only have to have the shot once every three months. And no pills or condoms to worry about.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

The women who live in developing countries are having more children than women anywhere else. These women are generally poor and uneducated, and so either (a) have misconceptions about birth control/don't know how to use it, (b) can't afford to pay for shots/pills, or (c) [i]need[/i] a larger number of children to help earn money and take care of household duties.

In the past, people used to have enormous families (my dad is from a family of eight, and my paternal grandmother from a family of fifteen) because children could get jobs at a very young age, and, if they lived in a rural area, could be taught to work around the farm.

Condoms are cheap in both industrialized and developing countries. However, not enough women have learned how important it is to encourage their sexual partners to use one, and men will often pay prostitutes more money to have intercourse without a condom. Prostitution is a viable trade throughout the world, particularly in areas where women are starving and desparate. Their own families sometimes sell them into slavery or prostitution.

Birth control is important, but without proper education, it will continue to have little impact.

~Dagger~

[AutoKill]

[quote][i][b]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth[/i][/b]
You know what's ironic? I belive that alot of the green-peacers are evolutionists right? Well, those that are, obviously belive in the "survival of the fittest." If that's so, why do they continually vie to protect endangered animals, obviously they aren't "fit" enough to survive anyway.[/quote]

You have completely lost touch with nature. Survival of the fittest is animal vs animal, animal vs nature. Animals die in mass amounts due to pollution, and the destruction of their natural habitat. Not because we hunt all of the animals off the face of the earth. We are at the top of the food chain because of or "superior brain". But by all rights i think we have carelessly misused or power, like any other power hungry race. We still seem to think we are the all mighty creature on this earth and we must do everything to stay in the #1 spot. But the destruction of the ecosystem isn?t the best idea.
So to shorten this up. Drix D'Zanth, you?re way out of line. Am hoping you had a blond moment when you made theses ignorant observations.

[quote][i][b]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth[/i][/b]
We should nuke africa... it's given us Hanta, AIDS, Smallpox (it origionated in northern africa according to pathologists), and threatens to give the world a nice pandemic of Ebola, possibly. Oh yeah, I'm serious too...[/quote]

Are you a idiot?... It is natures fault that or immune system is to weak to protect humans that live on a completely different continent???... I know you said your ?serious?... but I beg that you re-think what you have just said.

Any way... To stay on topic. I still feel strongly about the fact that our world could possibly overpopulate. Am not saying that in the next 50 years we should make huge strides to stop this. But in 100 years a lot of things can change. A LOT?

[Baron Samedi]

Me being in a sarcastic mood today....

[quote][i]Originally posted by Autokill[/i]

Are you a idiot?... It is natures fault that or immune system is to weak to protect humans that live on a completely different continent???... I know you said your ?serious?... but I beg that you re-think what you have just said.
[/quote]


lol. You seriously thought that Drix was for real? Eh. There is no depth to [i]your[/i] social perceptions, thats for sure.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Stryder Hiryu[/i]

Guys i hope youve all seen the matrix the part when Agent Smith talks to neo about humans and how we a re a VIRUS i think that is soooooo true.Every single orginism but us have learned to become an ecosystem of balance.As for us we just consume and move on to another area and consume that.I believe we should not be looking for cures of any diseise cause it keeps the Pop. down.I and we need more wars and plagues.We need smokers and drunk drivers and mass murders it puts us all in balance and if we stop doing that and find cures then this planet is going to hell?then what?Mars?and of course we will do the same thing to mars.WE cant live in harmony with other things.We are a virus that needs to be wiped out.[/quote]

Woohoo. Lets go participate in a mass population cleansing. Yeah. w00t. You know what. Hitler had the right idea- he was just a forward thinker! Yeah, thats what I think.

Come on. People?

The only reason the other "orginisms" are balanced is because they live in nautre, and are out where they can die easily. Also, we have a longer life expectancy, giving us a greater population, requiring more resources. We are top heavy, getting more poeple than we can accomodate and sustain, so we spread, but now we can't spread too much further, and are burning up resources. It would happen to any other animal with the right conditions for a population increase. We are adaptable.

We need wars and plagues. We need more mass murderers, drink drivers, and smokers. Who cares if the victims family is distraught, we'll just shoot them too!. In fact.. lets steal a script from Rainbow Six, make a virus to kill the worlds population! What a [i]great[/i] idea.

And we are most definitely in need of wiping out. I mean. Sheesh. We are just [i]too[/i] bad to deserve to live. Even that little baby you saw today. We should kill everyone, even the little toddlers, because we are a [i]virus[/i]. Yep. Right on.

[Note: No truth in that Hitler statement- just a sarcastic bit.]

[AutoKill]

[Quote][i][b]Originally posted by Baron Samedilol.[/i][/b] You seriously thought that Drix was for real? Eh. There is no depth to your social perceptions, thats for sure.[/quote]
:shifty:Yes... This is not my first time disagreeing with him on a post. And if i know him at all, i think he wants all of Africa to perish in nuclear fallout that kills off all "bad viruses" that can decrees the population of humans.:flaming:

[Sara]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AutoKill [/i]
[B]i think he wants all of Africa to perish in nuclear fallout that kills off all "bad viruses" that can decrees the population of humans.:flaming: [/B][/QUOTE] [SIZE=1]I can't tell if you're serious or not. [/SIZE]

[Brasil]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sara [/i]
[B][SIZE=1]I can't tell if you're serious or not. [/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE]

I think she's just an idiot. She doesn't even know what the hell she is saying, and frankly, she can't even begin to debate with the heavy hitters here. The question to ask here, Sara, is not whether she was serious; the question to ask here, is she an idiot? The answer is yes.

Now, overpopulation. Hmmm...if the world is indeed overcrowded, we need to figure out how to thin out the population.

There are a few solutions.

1) (James isn't gonna like this one lol) We send all the idiots to the Australian outback, where the game hunters and poachers will stop killing whatever endangered specie is...endangered right now. Upon releasing the idiots into the desert, we will hire those hunters and poachers to hunt the idiots, offering a reasonable compensation equal to what they would receive for say, a Koala bear.

2) Selling babies to be eaten. Provides a boost to the economy, feeds a lot of wealthy people, and lessens the strain on society, as less children equals easier life on their prostitute mothers.

3) Claymore mines in high school hallways. Too many times people just stop in the middle of the hall. A motion detection system installed in a few claymore mines would work nicely to thin out the idiots. When a braindead moron stops, boom. No more idiot, thus population control.

4) Middle East. Let's untie Israel's hands, let them go at it with the Palestinians. That'll thin down the population there, for sure. Hell, after the Isralis and Palestinians blow each other away, that'll provide more room for us fat Americans...we could take over the Gaza Strip for vacation homes and brothels. Let's install American casinos and adult book stores. The Gaza Strip will become the Gaza Strip Mall. Yeah, you know, that whole Middle East area is way overcrowded.

5) Handicapped people. There are too many of them, and they get the best parking, dammnit. I don?t like having to walk 9 extra feet to enter a building. Do you see just how many handicapped spaces there are these days? The parking lots are overcrowded with them, and I?m guessing, since handicapped people ***** and moan about not having ENOUGH spaces, there are even MORE handicapped people than there are handicapped spaces. That?s proof that we?re overpopulated of handicapped people. We should thin out their population. Make them participate in heavy duty track and field events, make them climb stuff.

6) N00bs and spammers. Too many of them. Solution? Don?t ban. Shoot them. Take a ModCannon and blast them into oblivion. We should instate people like me, Harry, and Wrist Cutter as Site Admins or covert Mods. We?ll hunt these violators down and beat them with their own handicapped appendages.

Shall I go on? I?ve probably got more, but eh. Feast on that.

Regards,

PoisonTongue

[AutoKill]

I am a male? Thank you...

[quote][b][i]Originally posted by PoisonTongue[/b][/i] Shall I go on? I?ve probably got more, but eh. Feast on that.[/quote]

Please dont. Stop you have confirmed to every one that your just another hypocrite. Don?t worry your not the only one out there. But you are probably one of the few ignorant hypocrites.

[quote][b][i]Originally posted by PoisonTongue[/b][/i] I think she's(he) just an idiot. She(he) doesn't even know what the hell she(he?s) is saying, and frankly, she(he) can't even begin to debate with the heavy hitters here. The question to ask here, Sara, is not whether she(he) was serious; the question to ask here, is she(he) an idiot? The answer is yes.(your opionon)[/quote]

How did you come to that assumption? That ?I don?t know what the hell am talking about.? I had a hard time understanding this. You say that, then you debate how we should thin out the world?s population. So even though am a idiot, you answer my question. I can understand that if you think my question is stupid, and then make fun of it by talking about ways to thin out the words population. While being sarcastic. But then your just making a *** out of yourself. I can only come to the fact that you?re an ignorant hypocrite. Or you made a really lame come back, to make me look as you put it a non-?heavy hitter". Even if being a heavy hitter makes you cool that is.

[Guest PhoenixFlame]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AutoKill [/i]
[B]I tend to think about things like population in the world. As most people know Japan has had to make changes to keep population of people in check. I feel that soon or government (United States of America) will have to do the same. When colonist first came to this continent the last thing they worried about was overpopulating. Sense then the only thing that has kept population from multiplying is war, and disease. ( :(Sorry this may seem cruel to think about the mass death of people:( )
But after the turn of the millennium I feel that there is no longer fear in terrible disease and war. (For the most part) I feel that population may be a new valid topic for us to be thinking about. After all, we aren?t much like animals and have certain seasons to mate and populate.

[COLOR=darkred]Please tell me your opinion on this topic..[/COLOR] :worried: [/B][/QUOTE] itll take longer for america and canada cause theyve only been populated for 3 hundred years japan and other countries have been populated for over a millenium (not counting the carribean islands

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AutoKill [/i]
[B]You have completely lost touch with nature.

Rawr. Looks like someone started off pissed, or you are just a furry. Do you realize what you just said? Are you at all in any more touch with "nature" than I am? Sorry, you probably use the exact same commodities that I do every single day, you probably eat the same food, and help pay for the same moguls that are the bane of all your righteous "causes". To lose all complete touch with nature means I'd be dead. *looks around* Not yet.


[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AutoKill [/i]
[B] Survival of the fittest is animal vs animal, animal vs nature. Animals die in mass amounts due to pollution, and the destruction of their natural habitat. Not because we hunt all of the animals off the face of the earth. .[/B][/QUOTE]

I see, you decided to create your own personal definition of survival of the fittest. I'm sorry kiddo, you have little if any idea about the principle at all. Why am I drawing such conclusions? *looks a few posts down* looks like you drew a few yourself.

Survival of the fittest applies directly to certain evolutionary mechanisms. By definition, humans are NOT exempt of these methods at all. Who are you to say that if Lions had the same cranial capabilities as us they wouldn't outsmart and massacre every animal on the plain? Wait, they don't have opposable thumbs; no building guns or weapons of horrible destruction. So, I'm not going to hold that against the Lion. That would just be prejudice.. I'm not one to be prejudice, are you Autokill?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AutoKill [/i]
[B]We are at the top of the food chain because of or "superior brain". But by all rights i think we have carelessly misused or power, like any other power hungry race. We still seem to think we are the all mighty creature on this earth and we must do everything to stay in the #1 spot. But the destruction of the ecosystem isn?t the best idea.
So to shorten this up. Drix D'Zanth, you?re way out of line. Am hoping you had a blond moment when you made theses ignorant observations.[/B][/QUOTE]

I belive god gave us these abitrary endowments. Evolutionists belive we evovled this superior brain. Either way, there's nothing in either belief system to determine how we should moderate the endowment. Who says we aren't the all-mightly creature? We could kill every single elephant on earth. We could make an effort to massacre most creatures, cut down massive amounts of forest. We could easily destroy the ecosystem.

But we don't. So please, stop whining, and go eat a burger.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AutoKill [/i]
[B]
Are you a idiot?... It is natures fault that or immune system is to weak to protect humans that live on a completely different continent???... I know you said your ?serious?... but I beg that you re-think what you have just said.
[/B][/QUOTE]

:laugh:

[AutoKill]

Drix D'Zanth,
You seemed to mess up on a lot of your coding. :therock:
Seems like we have came back to the same crossroad that we always do. You believe in god, and religion. So you think you are special above every other creature on the face of this earth.
I am atheist. I believe that we are just another creature that is at the top of the food chain. Kind of like T-rex was during their era.
We have once again met at this stop of indifference. First it was population control, then you made a very stupid post about how animal rights activist are stupid because some of them believe in the strongest survive. Then ultimately i bring up something about the mass killing of creatures on this earth, and once again you justify it by saying. Oh god made us the strongest so we could kill anything we want to. Sure it?s not what you said word for word. But that?s how am going to take what you said. And basically that?s what you said. That god gave us the honor of being the top of the food chain because we are the special creatures of earth. So I guess whatever makes you sleep at night.:sleepy:

I know I am a hypocrite. I take advantage of being at the top of the food chain. But I don?t try to justify myself by saying god meant it to be so. I wish I could change society to become less harmful to the planet. Yes, less harmful. I don?t think we intentionally kill off animals and hurt the ecosystem. We do it by accident. I was trying to say we should be more careful. That?s just my opinion.


I also saw that you didn?t say anything to my last post. You just quoted me and gave up. Am deeply disappointed.:bawl: I know I usually don?t try to quote you. It takes to much time to do the coding. And it really is only flattery. BUT.... I cant resists. :angry3:

[quote][b][i]Originally posted by Drix D'Zanth

Wait, they don't have opposable thumbs; no building guns or weapons of horrible destruction. So, I'm not going to hold that against the Lion. That would just be prejudice.. I'm not one to be prejudice, are you Autokill?[/b][/i][/quote]

No. I am not prejudice. If anything am jealous. There are mine animals in the world that are fascinating to me. Please don?t imply something that rude to label me as.:cussing:

[Artemis]

I don't know if it's worth it to get into another one of these heated arguments, but here I go...
I'm Pro-life and a practicing Catholic. As far as I'm concerned: abortion and contrception are wrong. NFP (natural family planning) is the way to go. If we're becoming too overcrowded, I trust that our human reason will help us discover ways of making room for everyone. I think population restriction policies can become very dangerous. Think 1984 and "Among the Hidden". It becomes a serious moral and social issue. I really don't think that overpopulation is an issue that will ever been that serious in our lifetime. People over-exagerrate it.