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This post will BASH Funi's teeth out.........If you like FUNImation please.. DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER
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(By the way in no way am i bashingh CN, some of their shows are quite funny)
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There, i warned you....



Funimation is the most god awful recycled crap i have ever seen in my life... Not only have they ruined DBZ for all American viewers they have ruined my DBZ pride in the US. I can't believe how much they have turned the best anime show of probably [i]all time[i/] into a heap of sh*t... By now your saying Mastermind.... what's so bad? Well in the following paragraphs ill describe exactly what's so terrible.....

---------------------Raditsu/Saiya-jin-------------
The worst saga of all time......While I must admit Raditsu was actually OK so parts made me cry.....

Krillin throws a Kienzen at Raditsu's cheek...... It cuts him and....NOTHING COMES OUT!!!!!!!!!!! Geez what the hell is wrong!
Timmy the retarded 2 year old knows that if you get cut what happens! Blood! Yet the assume there little trained monkey viewers agree with they that there body is made from all skin. and blood which keeps you alive isn't in your body....

Now the saiya-jin.....
well here's just an example....
"Nappa destroys a helicopter...you see it explode into a million peices"
Then "I see two parachutes, o great there OK!"
HOW THE HELL COULD YOU POSSIBLY SURVIVE THAT
don't worry it gets worse....
"Nappa destoys buildings-
"Too bad they all evacuated this is great target practice..
WTF damnit how could they evacuate in 2 seconds... why in the japanese version you see people disintergreat when hiot with nappa's beam...
And then there's
In the japanese version, tien's arm gets blasted and he's bleeding every where and when he's about to die...he remembers his life...vry dramitc and sad... while ion the english we get
"This three eyed coybow is out for the count...Ill give em my last blast..YEEHAW!"
......WAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I will post the rest of this of this saga, and namek and garlic...tonight post your comments
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(Disclaimer: I am an american. Born and raised here in the good ol' U.S of A. I love my country. But the truth has to be told).

The only comment I have is... you're an idiot.

OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO CUT AND EDIT ALL THE CARTOON'S DUDE! This isn't Japan. Japenese kids aren't impressionable little idiot hamster's like american kids. They need to edit the cartoons and remove the violence and killing or else everyone from the UN to the ASPCA to Dan Quayle will be screaming for this "violent, polluting image of killing" to be pulled off the air because it'll have "a permanent, detrimental effect on the youth of America." You think ONE episode of DBZ would ever be aired without the editing? Character's openly applauding the death and mutilation of american citizens? Do you know how many American children would be detonating building's within the week? How about Freeza? I've seen the Japanese un-edited versions... what do you think idiot american parents (who raise their kids by sitting them in front of the TV and turning them on to keep them quiet) would say if they heard what Freeza was ACTUALLY saying to everyone, immediatly before he killed them? I'm 23 years old, and even *I* had nightmares about Freeza's brutal ruthlessness. I'm not surprised his voice was so queer, another attempt to deflect the fact THAT HE KILLED THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF A PLANET.

Do I disagree with you? No. I think the edited english episodes suck. But is it unjustified? Hell NO. All that editing MUST BE DONE, otherwise, a vast part of America would be saying DragonballWHO?
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You sir are an idiot....Yes i too was born and raised here in the USA but this has gone way to far...if you apluad funimation for blasting people into the next dimension then that's ok...But the fact is they completely ruined the show. Yes, voilence was removed but at the expense at:
"We cant show running or flowing blood only dry blood and scrapes"
Anyway i told you not to freakin post if you were going to whine like a baby about it.....
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by -_MaStErMiNd_- [/i]
[B]You sir are an idiot....Yes i too was born and raised here in the USA but this has gone way to far...if you apluad funimation for blasting people into the next dimension then that's ok...But the fact is they completely ruined the show. Yes, voilence was removed but at the expense at:
"We cant show running or flowing blood only dry blood and scrapes"
Anyway i told you not to freakin post if you were going to whine like a baby about it..... [/B][/QUOTE]

I haven't taken it way too far, and I'm not whining like an idiot. I'm trying to save you the trouble of pointing out EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE where something was cut from the original Japanese version to make it editable in english. And I'm trying to save everyone the time they're gonna take reading your ridiculous posts. Anyone fanatical enough to be registered to a DBZ website is prolly already aware that the Japanese version is different.

But the bottom line is this: FUNimation edits the episodes because that's the only way they can be shown in the States with all this silly american "Violence in TV" nonsense our country is so wrapped up in. And FUNimation does it anyways because they don't give a DAMN about the integrity of the show. THey do it because of another peice of Silly American Nonsense: Blinding, overwhelming greed. FUNimation is making MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars in DBZ marketing, merchandising, etc. I'm sure they lose NO sleep over the bastardizing of what is one of the greatest shows ever. And, the fact remains, ALOT of people in america would never have even heard of DBZ without these edited episodes. So the fact remains, if more people are able to see and enjoy this wonderful show, even if it is editied beyond comprehension, where's the harm in that?

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you 100%... it's silly, stupid, and it ruins my favorite show ever. But don't waste our time quoting lines containing silly stupid american overdubs, and don't be selfish... let the general american public enjoy the story. If they like it enough, they'll buy the unedited DBZ DVD's and watch the original (which, i'm sure, is another part of their DIABOLICAL plan to bleed the american public dry and put another Mercedes in their two car garage.)
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Heelooo! the editing is to save people the displeasure of seeing all that violence, blood, guts, language while they eat breakfast (well in [I]my[/I] case that is), anyway when I first saw an un-cut pic of radditz after him and goku were basted by piccilo I felt sick as. like LittleFluteSan said: 'japanese kids aren't imprsionable' they grow up with this stuff so they don't bother to run around playing it or what-not, where do you think people get ideas like 'school shootings' anyway? TV.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by LittleFluteSan [/i]
[B]The only comment I have is... you're an idiot.
[/B][/QUOTE]

I 2nd that....mastermind, you are a complete moron.

**goes sits on the couch and grabs popcorn and watches**
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Gohan [/i]
[B]
Sure *moves the bowl toward him* What's the hold up!! I want some action!!! [/B][/QUOTE]

um... thought I should tell you this *takes handfull of popcorn* I'm a chick not a guy, but hey no I'm not afended, I get told I sound like a guy from a guy who sounds like a girl
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Duo Maxwell [/i]
[B]

um... thought I should tell you this *takes handfull of popcorn* I'm a chick not a guy, but hey no I'm not afended, I get told I sound like a guy from a guy who sounds like a girl [/B][/QUOTE]
How can u actually think i ment it that way?!?! I M NOT GAY!!!!! When i said action, i ment for the two ppl who were fighting before to fight some more.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Gohan [/i]
[B]
How can u actually think i ment it that way?!?! I M NOT GAY!!!!! When i said action, i ment for the two ppl who were fighting before to fight some more. [/B][/QUOTE]

calm down... breath I just thought you'd like to at least know I'm female and as for the action thing that had nothing to do w/it I never thought you were gay anyway only one person in the entire world who I think is gay and you ain't him.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Duo Maxwell [/i]
[B]

calm down... breath I just thought you'd like to at least know I'm female and as for the action thing that had nothing to do w/it I never thought you were gay anyway only one person in the entire world who I think is gay and you ain't him. [/B][/QUOTE]
Ok, i kinda told my mistake on the second post. Sry...
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Duo Maxwell [/i]
[B]he he ust realized that :D *grabs more popcorn, looks at clock*
By god it can't be 5:30!!! ok um... 15 more mins then I'm gonna sleep. *eyes popcorn* [/B][/QUOTE]
U go to sleep at 5:45?!? And, o, i c u must liv in england.
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My personal apologies to those of you wishign to see some action. Due to the condescending and downright rude content of my original posts, i'm going to request to the moderator to edit my original post, removing all negativity from my argument about Mastermind, thereby making it fun for all ages.

Oh, yeah, pass the popcorn...

(anyone STILL looking for action, just say something REALLY lame, and I'll rip you to shreds later).
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Well, I never liked FUNi in the first place... and I used to whine about them doing whatever they do too...

ALl I have to say is: Welcome to America, where we take everything foriegn, rip it to shreds, then sell the hell out of it as if it were our own....

And that is your answer... FUNi isn't the only anime dubbing company that does bad anime dubs... there are more, but then again, those companys don't have quite the same fame as FUNi does either... it's business, and business can be a terrible thing when it comes to marketing in foriegn countries... but you gotta live with it.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]And that is your answer... FUNi isn't the only anime dubbing company that does bad anime dubs... there are more, but then again, those companys don't have quite the same fame as FUNi does either... it's business, and business can be a terrible thing when it comes to marketing in foriegn countries... but you gotta live with it. [/B][/QUOTE]
I was thinkin about that, and i thought that there MUST hav been other companies. But i really don't pay much attention to others because of all the discrimanation that FUNI is getting. Just goes to show how a slip in the dubbing process with just one company can ruin it's popularity.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Gohan [/i]
[B]
I was thinkin about that, and i thought that there MUST hav been other companies. But i really don't pay much attention to others because of all the discrimanation that FUNI is getting. Just goes to show how a slip in the dubbing process with just one company can ruin it's popularity. [/B][/QUOTE]

There's a couple of things to say about that...

One, Even though FUNImation bastardized DBZ, i'm glad they did it, because otherwise, I would have been deprived of ever having seen it...

Two, on the other hand, given the popularity of DBZ, some OTHER company would have undoubtably seen the money making machine DBZ was and brought it to America... and most probably would have had to rape it in much the same way to market it as a "kids show."
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Gohan [/i]
[B]YOU SUK LittleFluteSan!!!! AND SO DOES FUNI FOR NOT SHOWING US BLOOD, GORE, LANGUAGE, AND...UHH...NUDITY... [/B][/QUOTE]

Bite me, retard. Only a deprived, child molesting misanthrope would want to see all that.

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Hey, you, you don't need to be so mean! Go bite an insect, you toad!
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First of all I'd just like to say, that the first few posts in this topic were completely immature. If you want to flame each other, do so over AIM.

HOWEVER, I do agree than FUNi has done a terrible job of dubbing and editing. I don't know if it is true, but I read somewhere a couple days ago that FUNi decided not to edit anime any longer. According to dablackgoku.com, FUNi stated that they would now provide only the closest translations possible. Your belief in that statement is completely up to you. I don't personally care what they do.

-Justin
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Justin [/i]
[B]First of all I'd just like to say, that the first few posts in this topic were completely immature. If you want to flame each other, do so over AIM.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Immature? I won't even dignify that with a response...

except to say that HE STARTED IT!
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