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[quote]I think the "twisting the shows to get shounen ai fanfiction" idea really stems from fangirls not wanting any of the female characters getting their favourite guys ^_^;; *hides from the angered fangirls* They'd rather see their favourite guys paired off together than that annoying little "madame" getting "their" bishounen... Heh, that's my view anyway ^_^[/quote]

Yeah, that could be it. (/me tells Braidless Baka to duck the volley of tomatoes, stuffed character plushies, paper wads, and whatever else they can find to throw)
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by amibasuki [/i]
[B][FONT=arial]not really. some people just think some guys go well together :p.[/FONt][/B][/QUOTE]

Heh, really? I've lived through the squeeing before now with a certain someone(s) if she/they read this thread they know who they are... ^____^

It went something like this:
"NOOOO!!! YUUUUUUKKIIIII!!! That stupid [insert swearing referring to the female in question here]!!! MIIINE!!! MYYY YUUUUUKI!!! NOT YOURS!! MINE!!! *begins clawing at the screen in an attempt to break right through it to rescue her beloved*"

Heh... yeah... O_o *laughs* I'm sure I can rest my case now your honour ^_^;;
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Maybe a Moderator combined them or something. I was kinda confused also. Well, I think most girls who like guy/guy relationships mostly like shounen-ai. I think. At least, I do. There IS a difference between shounen-ai and yaoi for those of you who think they're the same.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Braidless Baka [/i]
[B]Heh, really? I've lived through the squeeing before now with a certain someone(s) if she/they read this thread they know who they are... ^____^

It went something like this:
"NOOOO!!! YUUUUUUKKIIIII!!! That stupid [insert swearing referring to the female in question here]!!! MIIINE!!! MYYY YUUUUUKI!!! NOT YOURS!! MINE!!! *begins clawing at the screen in an attempt to break right through it to rescue her beloved*"

Heh... yeah... O_o *laughs* I'm sure I can rest my case now your honour ^_^;; [/B][/QUOTE]
[FONT=arial]:rotflmao: haha, we'll see about that :devil:

for me it's the opposite. if I were to see a male character I absolutely [i]adore[/i], and I found out he was in love with another man, I'd be clawing at the screen going "[b]NOOOOO!!!![/b] go STRAIGHT!!" I mean, I've seriously got nothin' against people who are gay, but if all the awesome guys go to other guys, what are us girls gonna get? I'd rather see him paired off with a girl, ya know? won't make me jealous or anything.

as an example, I can't [i]stand[/i] it when people insist that Tasuki and Chichiri like each other (they don't!). but if they really did, I'd be scratching at the screen screaming. I don't like the idea of my two favorite characters paired together, probably because I'm a Tasuki+Miaka fan (don't ask), and I'd want Chichiri paired with a girl. as a minor note, keep in mind that's a preferance of mine. I'm NOT homophobic!

then, again, there are the certain pairings I just happen to really like a lot. Kurama and Hiei together is an example (I know they're not actually like that, I'm saying I like the [i]idea[/i] of the pairing). don't ask why, I probably wouldn't be able to reasonably explain it. aaaaand I think this is certainly long enough, so I'll leave this at that before I confuse myself even more than I already have, if that's possible 0_o.[/FONt]
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[FONT=arial]yep, the two threads have merged, since both threads were about the same thing anyway. that's why it all looks messed up. I dunno how that double-posting thing happened. maybe you came back to the thread so many minutes after posting and posted again thinking it was still in a different thread trying to figure out what the heck was going on *shrug*. man that sounded complicated. oh well, no clue. but since you can still delete one of 'em, I would think it wouldn't be a big deal.[/FONT]
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Okay!! Im here to plead my case!! *sticks tongue out at Braidless-Baka* Nyaaah!!

Actually i dont really know *how* O_o OKAY!! IT WAS ME!! I SAID THAT!! AND IM PROUD!! ^______^

Id also like to comment on something before i actually go into what i wanted to originally say.

BRAIDLESS-BAKA HAS FINALLY ADMITTED TO THE SHOUNEN-AI HINTS IN "YAMI NO MATSUEI" *cackles and throws streamers everywhere* mwehhehe!! thats just totally made my day *coughs* anyway.

I guess i just watch/read shounen-ai/shoujou-ai for the plot lines. Even though im a fangirl, i dont just go looking for it because of pairings. I usually refuse to watch/read anything if its is distastefully done.

But i do blieve that those that do avoid it, are missing out on some really great animes.
And yes i do get protective of certain bishounen, as Braidless-Baka said mentioned. I *do* have a hard time seeing random anime females with bishounen i have claimed, i guess its a territorial thing lol

I dont get angry with any particular pairing *coughheero/relenacough* lol just kiddin' people are entitled to their opinions

Okay..well maybe id throw a fit is Yuki Eiri suddenely announced he was straight and left Shuichi O_O id just die.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MillieFan [/i]
[B]The GW pairings and the VashXWolfwood Trigun pairing aren't canon as far as I know. I might agree with you to SOME extent: mostly what I'm against is yaoi fanart. [/B][/QUOTE]

No, none of those are canon, really. Trowa and Quatre do have some really adorable scenes, though... and Catherine is Trowa's [I]sister[/I], for crying out in the mud!


Ah, but Vash/Wolfwood bothers me too. The fact that some people just slash ~anybody~ bothers me. There is very little canon romance in Trigun - Vash and the priest are just pals, and I personally think all the Plants are asexual. But, from what I've read of the (rather patchy) translation of Trigun Maximum #5, Midvalley and Wolfwood used to be together. Apparently, it did not end well, from what I've been able to ascertain. Also, later on in TM, there is some jealous conflict between Legato and Elendira, the source of which is just...obvious. ;) That's about it. Anything else is fan-created.

May I enquire as to what you have against yaoi fanart? Do you mean, like, graphic drawings or just fanart with shounen-ai themes?
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By Yaoi, she means graphic drawing.

Yaoi: hard-core boy/boy relationship
Shounen-ai: fluffy scenes with bubbles in the air whilst boys hug each other.

Yes, I'm a shounen-ai fan, but I also don't think Vash/Wolfwood are a good couple. You're right about people who slash guys that...can't...be slashed. O__O But it's just fanworks, so I don't really mind. XD
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This whole thread for me was kind of depressing but oh well, I should have learned better by now.

I am proud to say that I swing both ways and considering most of the people I hang out with are some major freaks, fruits, flakes, and nuts(The population of California the Granola state!) running all over the spectrum. I am not fazed by much but just as no man or woman would want to be hit on by and ugly person no straight person would want to be hit on by someone of their same gender and vice versa becuase they just aren?t attracted to that person. It?s a matter of taste(Really wants to make a some taste is good and some is just Jolly Bee Cat burgers joke... will resist). Some women dig it because... Oh say for example.

There?s a girl who likes reading VashxWolfwood fics because she?s attracted to both Vash and Wolfwood but she feels dirty thinking about Millie like *that* and thinks Meryl needs some midol... pronto. Then what exactly is she left with... orginal character? Self instert? Most self respecting people stay far away from those abominations.

Or for a male example... A gay guy doesn?t want fics or art with women in them becuase he?s really turned off by women... Yaoi is the answer.

If it?s a straight guy who is disturbed by the idea of a naked man but loves the ladies then Yuri is the answer and though the percentage is small there are lesbians who get over the sheer impossibility of Yuri and think it?s nifty keen(I?m not one of those people).

But once you enter those areas you must realize that Shounen-ai is predominantly done by women who appear to have no understanding of the male mind or body because guys for the most part aren?t it. Likewise Yuri and shoujo-ai appear to be exploitative and disgustingly out of porportion for women because it?s made by guys and not just any guys teenage loser otaku guys! ::screams::

The thing is entirely subjective. You can?t say it?s all base horrible because some shounen-ai is really really sweet and sometimes even realistic and should be held up as and example of the kind of realtionship all people should strive to acheive gender aside. Then there are other things, abusive, unrealistic, messed up fiction and art. I?m a freaky person but even I have morals and certain things I won?t touch with a ten-foot pole. Twincest, statutory, noncon, but somethings I feel I can?t object to. Gundam Wing stuff, for example, over an argument of age I can?t scream and puke because I?m just their age and I desire romance and love... why can?t they?

I?ve been fighting for some peace between my fandoms for a while and can make a good argument either way so I think I?ll come back.

Love and Peace means all Love and all Peace,
Sunde
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I'm not a real fan of yoai. The first time I read a shounen-ai fanfic (Malik/Ryou, from Yu-Gi-Oh), I thought the author had mistaken Ryou for a girl! I do like Kaworu/Shinji from Evangelion, though. It's one of my favorite pairings in general, but I don't like any shounen-ai or yoai pairings other than that really. Kaworu/Shinji is a really cute (and amazingly is actually is part of the show and not some fan-creation), but it still kinda creaps me out a little.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i]
[B][color=crimson][size=1]I only like guy on guy, and only to a certain extent. They both have to be really SEXY anime guys. Like, um, Shinji and Kaworu, or Hotohori and Nuriko, or Heero and Duo, or...um, I don't know, I could make up some interesting couples. Oh YES, and Touga and Saonji.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE]


[B]Heero and Duo[/B] Yes...i think they are the best couple.:)
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I personally hate it all.(PERIOD!) I'm okay with it if they use character who are or have possibilty of being like that, but not Vash and Wolfwood. NEVER! ANother is not Kurama and Heie. I'm sure Kurama is a ladys man(although he does give off a homosexual vibe.) and Heie isn't the romantic type anyway.
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WHAT.....THE.......****......
Man, im wit dat MillieFan kat, IM ANTI YAOI!!!
I think the only people that think its kool r women! WTF LADIES?!
Well, i guess its really like sayin me wanting to see 2 lesbos go at it or kiss or something...*fantasizes about les...er..something...*
'Nuff said.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TriGunMaSta68 [/i]
[B]WHAT.....THE.......****......
Man, im wit dat MillieFan kat, IM ANTI YAOI!!!
I think the only people that think its kool r women! WTF LADIES?!
Well, i guess its really like sayin me wanting to see 2 lesbos go at it or kiss or something...*fantasizes about les...er..something...*
'Nuff said. [/B][/QUOTE]

You said a mouthful. Straight girls find it gross when guys go for lesbian tales and stuff. Well, you either stop now or you better not complain anymore!
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maladjusted [/i]
[B][size=1] Well...at least I get annoyed when guys run to watch girl on girl porn. So if guys like to watch two girls bonk each other, then we should like to watch...some couple. Like Kaworu/Shinji. ::hugs Kaworu::[/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

If you like Kawaru so much, why don't you make him with a girl too show how "good" he is. If he's with another dude, you know he won't have a chance with a girl. You being hipocritaical.
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