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Sega's not dead...they've just turned into a full-time 3rd party developer...its likely that we'll see a Mario/Sonic crossover game soon...Concerning becoming a 3rd party developer...I guess the owner didn't think Dreamcast would make it in the future...so rather than risking his company...he killed off the dreamcast. It' was a wussy decision...but it's probably better for most people...
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Sega's dropping out of the console business wasn't really a "wussy move." The launch of the Dreamcast was highly successful, but shortly afterwards, sales numbers dwindled to a near standstill. Sega's failure with the Saturn didn't totally turn the consumers off because many true gamers recognized that Sega had gotten back on track and was ready to make amends for past misgivings. Many people were glad to give Sega a second chance.

However, third party developers didn't want to put big games on the Dreamcast until it sold better, but that wouldn't happen until more big games showed up. While there were enough gamers who recognized the Dreamcast's potential to give it a successful launch, there weren't enough to keep sales going at a steady rate. In the end, only a handful of games actually broke into the TRST top 20 for units sold. Sega didn't even fare too well in Japan.

You see, Sega made the right move for business. Now, people will actually play their quality games. Now that my history lesson is over, I'll address the topic.

Sonic's move to Nintendo actually freaks me out. I remember Sega's strong campaign against Nintendo. "Sega does, Nintendon't." Sega's commercials were top notch and hit below the belt. Nintendo was just as vicious, publishing an ad in magazines that bashed "blast processing" and showed several comparisons between dithered Sega graphics and Super Nintendo graphics. The looked so much like an editorial that many people wrote in complaining. To see such a mingling between two of the greatest mascots in the history of gaming will be a monumentous occasion.
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i was going to buy i dream cast but then it died( along with segas console career) i think its cool to see sega games on other systems though.
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[color=indigo]I think it's great that Sega is a 3rd party developer now! This way, you'll be able to play their games no matter what console you have! I'll finally get to play Sonic games on my Nintendo systems!
I don't have anything against Sega's systems, it's just that I never have enough money for two consoles...

I think it's funny to go back through all my old issues of Nintendo Power and Electronic Gaming Monthly and see all the Sega and Nintendo adds bashing on one another.[/color]
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To start, sega is making a hell of a lot more games for other systems that just sonic for gc. But is u hav a dc, it doesn't matter about the sonic game because the 2nd one for dc is supposed to be exactly lik it, so don't waste ur money for the expensive gc one.

The next super smash, if there is one, will not hav sonic in it. As u should kno, super smash has characters EXCLUSIVELY FOR NINTENDO, which means that sonic would not be on it, because it belongs to sega, even if it becomes a 3rd party for another system. Do u c tony hawk in the game? No. Just because a game is on a system, doesn't mean that it is owned by that company.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Gohan [/i]
[B]The next super smash, if there is one, will not hav sonic in it.[/B][/QUOTE]
[color=indigo]Actually, the next Super Smash Bros. (if there is another SSB game) may actually have Sonic in it. In an old Nintendo Power from a couple months ago, there was a short interview with Yuji Naka (the head of Sonic Team, the offshoot of Sega that makes the Sonic games) and he said that he and Shigeru Miyamoto were actually thinking about making a game together. He also said that Sonic might be in the next Super Smash Bros., if there is another one.[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KyJaUn~FuLlEr [/i][B]
[b] Super Smash Brothers Clash[/b] now doesn't that have a nice ring to it lol!!! :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Erhmm, what's the difference? It's still gonna be the same game, isn't it? Hehe, but I agree, that is a pretty nifty name..... :)
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[color=royalblue]It's definitely great that Sega is moving third party. I can't wait to see Sonic Adventure 3 on GameCube. :)

Other than that...I think we can look forward to seeing Sonic in Mario Kart on GameCube...I can't even imagine how cool that'll be, as I'm a HUGE Mario Kart fan. :)[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=royalblue]Other than that...I think we can look forward to seeing Sonic in Mario Kart on GameCube...I can't even imagine how cool that'll be, as I'm a HUGE Mario Kart fan. :)[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]
[color=indigo]You know what would be cool, if Sonic is in the next Mario Kart game? If, instead of driving a kart, he ran on foot![/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=royalblue]It's definitely great that Sega is moving third party. I can't wait to see Sonic Adventure 3 on GameCube. :)

Other than that...I think we can look forward to seeing Sonic in Mario Kart on GameCube...I can't even imagine how cool that'll be, as I'm a HUGE Mario Kart fan. :)[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]
[COLOR=teal]Strange, but I never thought that I would see the day when an administrator would bring back a topic almost 20 days old. I am sure that someone must be messing around with the dates.

About the topic, Sonic looks like he has found a home, like I stated in a previous topic, in Nintendo. If Sonic Adventure 2 Battle hasn't convinced you enough, then I hope that you will believe me once an entirely new Sonic game comes to the GCN.

JCBaggee, I think you mean Sonic Advance, and it came out a long time ago. Again, why does it seem that people are messing with the dates?[/COLOR]

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jcgoudy [/i]
[B][color=indigo]I think it's great that Sega is a 3rd party developer now! This way, you'll be able to play their games no matter what console you have! I'll finally get to play Sonic games on my Nintendo systems!
I don't have anything against Sega's systems, it's just that I never have enough money for two consoles[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree entirely. I just wish that companies would make games for both Gamecube and Playstation2. I really like some of the games on the ps2, but it comes to the monie problem. I got a Gamecube and can't get a ps2. I know that it would probly hurt the console sales but the game sales would mostlikely go up though.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kizu [/i]
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Yeah, I agree entirely. I just wish that companies would make games for both Gamecube and Playstation2. I really like some of the games on the ps2, but it comes to the monie problem. I got a Gamecube and can't get a ps2. I know that it would probly hurt the console sales but the game sales would mostlikely go up though. [/B][/QUOTE]
[COLOR=teal]Actually, a great number of 3rd parties contribute games for both of the systems, along with Xbox. These games are mostly sport games like Madden 2002 and SSX Tricky, but they are still extremely good. I see what you are saying though. You mean that they should have the same action games, like Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, right? Ah, but that would bring down the sales of one, if not both of the systems. There would be no reason to choose between them, no need for competition, no fun at all, in my opinion. I like it better the way it is now.[/COLOR]

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solid Snake [/i]
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[COLOR=teal]Actually, a great number of 3rd parties contribute games for both of the systems, along with Xbox. These games are mostly sport games like Madden 2002 and SSX Tricky, but they are still extremely good. I see what you are saying though. You mean that they should have the same action games, like Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, right? Ah, but that would bring down the sales of one, if not both of the systems. There would be no reason to choose between them, no need for competition, no fun at all, in my opinion. I like it better the way it is now.[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]
[color=indigo]If every third party developer developed for all three consoles, then it would come down to the first and second party games... which is the way I think it should be. If a console can't hold its own with good first and second party games, then I don't think its a very good console.
A good example of this is the Nintendo 64. It survived for a long time, mainly off of its first and second party games.[/color]
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[COLOR=indigo]Sonic Battle, he new sonic game for GCN is awesome!!! I just bought it yesterday (now i'm broke again)And i'm not sure if Sonic Advance is already out, or comes out soon.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solid Snake [/i]
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[COLOR=teal]Strange, but I never thought that I would see the day when an administrator would bring back a topic almost 20 days old. I am sure that someone must be messing around with the dates.

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[color=royalblue]I don't consider this topic to be old. :)

It was still on the first page, around the middle.

Please remember, this forum (and some others here) tend to move fairly slowly. And thus, the definition of an "old topic" is perhaps different here to what it would be in General Discussion.

Also, the use of old topics isn't against the rules at all -- it's preferable to creating an entirely new topic which would essentially be the same as the old one.

Just thought you'd like to remain updated on the rules. ;)[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B]

[color=royalblue]I don't consider this topic to be old. :)

It was still on the first page, around the middle.

Please remember, this forum (and some others here) tend to move fairly slowly. And thus, the definition of an "old topic" is perhaps different here to what it would be in General Discussion.

Also, the use of old topics isn't against the rules at all -- it's preferable to creating an entirely new topic which would essentially be the same as the old one.

Just thought you'd like to remain updated on the rules. ;)[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

I'd like to add that bringing back old topics in the videogame forums is useful when the topic is started before the game is released(as is the case with this one). Once the game is released and people are able to play the game, their opinions on the finished product can provide new life not only in the thread, but in the forum as well.
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