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ARent ROMS legal if you own the original game? I think it is because if you already have the original game, then you can download the ROM and there would be no problem as long as you dont sell it or distribute it. But then again, they might think of it as a seperate game and make you pay for it. Ive never used ROMS, I just develop emulators, which is not illegal, but I think if you copyed your game onto your comp and then used the emulator, I dont think they could say anything against it. What do you think?
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[SIZE=1][FONT=century gothic][COLOR=crimson]totally illegal... the reasoning it says this game is specificly made for the XXXXXXXXXXX system (even when on diff systems it says on for the system that that particluar copy is for). second there is actually laws agaisnt them since they are copywrited. i know a few months ago the busted a few people at my college for it so yea...............[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NeoCactuar [/i]
[B]Well from what i know. It [b][i]IS[/i][/b] leagel to download a rom if you intend to buy the game with in 24 hours. But otherwise, it is not leagal to download the rom. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]Incorrect. That is a common misnoma printed on the web.

Actually, if you download any ROM at all -- you are technically stealing.[/color]
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There is no way to ensure that people who download roms already have the games. Most people who already have the game wouldn't download it anyway. I see roms as robbing sales from the gaming companies. It actually hurts the industry any way you look at it.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SuperSayian [/i]
[B]Please excuse the inturrubtion, but what exactly [i]is[/i] a ROM? A downloaded copy of a game? Is that correct? *falls over anime-style* [/B][/QUOTE]
[color=green]Yes, that is correct. :) They are copies of games on your computer, playable, but illegal.[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Squashed Snail [/i]
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[color=green]Yes, that is correct. :) They are copies of games on your computer, playable, but illegal.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Playable, illegal, yet so good... :drunk:

I ain't supporting the stealing of anything from anyone here, but lemme just make my point; Video Game systems like the Master System, NES, original Gameboy, SNES, Genesis... They don't make 'em anymore. I've looked all over the country, and all over the web for them. But I can't find them! And If I do, then what chance is there that I'll find Rockman and Forte, Final Fantasy or some other unreleased Japanese game there? Over here, it's zilch.

Sometimes for people like me who missed out on the Video gaming revolution, Emulators and ROMs are the only way to play these older games. Sad but true... And that's my little tale.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Final_Flash [/i]
[B]Sometimes for people like me who missed out on the Video gaming revolution, Emulators and ROMs are the only way to play these older games. Sad but true... And that's my little tale. [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, I suppose if you look at it that way then it's all good. My main problem is that there are few people like you in that regard. As a whole, sites containing roms mainly focus on PSX, Snes, Genesis, GameBoy, DreamCast, N64, and NES. It's just a shame that the videogame industry has to take a hit because people don't realize that by buying a game they are supporting a company.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i]
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Well, I suppose if you look at it that way then it's all good. My main problem is that there are few people like you in that regard. As a whole, sites containing roms mainly focus on PSX, Snes, Genesis, GameBoy, DreamCast, N64, and NES. It's just a shame that the videogame industry has to take a hit because people don't realize that by buying a game they are supporting a company. [/B][/QUOTE]
[color=green]Also, some people can't afford it, like me.... :toothy: Thoug I still buy them when I can, I haven't downloaded a ROM for something like 3 years now, since I realised they were illegal..... o.O;;[/color]
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[color=indigo]While making a "back-up" copy of something you own is legal for some things, it isn't for the ROMs ([u]R[/u]ead [u]O[/u]nly [u]M[/u]emories) of video games. [URL=http://www.nintendo.com/corp/faqs/legal.html]Here's[/URL] a page from [url]www.nintendo.com[/url] that tells about ROMs.

While downloading and playing old NES, SNES, Master System, and Genesis ROMs aren't actually hurting the company at all, since they're not making those games anymore, the companies that made them will tell you different.
Personally, I don't really see it doing much harm if you're playing a ten year old NES/SNES game... Unless Nintendo is going to/has remade it for the GBA. Then I think it'd be wrong. I do think that PSX, N64, and DC ROMs are wrong, though, since they actually hurt the companies that made the game.

But hey, we can all play Pac-Man as much as we want on our PCs or whatever, and it'll be legal! I guess the company that made Pac-Man (Don't remember which) made it open to the public. They have it on cell phones in Japan![/color]
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[QUOTE][i]NINTENDO of America FAQ [/i]
[B] Can Websites and/or Internet Content Providers be Held Liable for Violation of Intellectual Property Rights if they are Only Providing Links to Illegal Software and/or Other Illegal Devices? [/B]

Yes. Personal Websites and/or Internet Content Providers sites That link to Nintendo ROMs, Nintendo emulators and/or illegal copying devices can be held liable for copyright and trademark violations, regardless of whether the illegal software and/or devices are on their site or whether they are linking to the sites where the illegal items are found.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][FONT=century gothic][COLOR=crimson]that is quite interesting... cause well means i now have a legal right to delete anyone who posts a link to a site that has ROM links...

and to flash... just cause it is an older game doesnt mean you can play it... as the nintendo site says they have copyright laws for 75 years... and none of the ROM games are that old ;)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jcgoudy [/i]
[B][color=indigo]

But hey, we can all play Pac-Man as much as we want on our PCs or whatever, and it'll be legal! I guess the company that made Pac-Man (Don't remember which) made it open to the public. They have it on cell phones in Japan![/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

[COLOR=blue][SIZE=1]damn man, i have pac-man on my cel pone**gets it out and plays with it**[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zero-Sama [/i]
[B]I have learned one rule for ROMs.....Never.....Ever........EVER download and use a ROM.....Also,It is legal to download a ROM,But just as long as you delete it with 24 hours of aquiring it..... [/B][/QUOTE]

WRONG

[QUOTE]Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?

There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. It is well established by judicial decisions in the United States that this limited exception does not apply to game data contained in ROM semiconductor chips in video game cartridges. Therefore, whether you have already an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.
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[SIZE=1][FONT=century gothic][COLOR=crimson]meaning you cant even download them for 5 seconds. it is TOTALLY illegal in the US to download ROMS at all. even if you own the game. you can NOT download them period. so dont think there is a 24 hour rule at all. THERE ISNT. i suggest if you have ANY ROMs u go and turn yourself in! errrr well get them off your computer at least... and then get the files that show what you have had deleted as well, which is hard to do lol...[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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  • 4 weeks later...
Hmm, this thread reminded me to scan my computer again for roms, found another folder with 26mb of gameboy roms o_O

*hears police knocking on the door* :eek:

Ah well those were from before I had known about the law thingy, I have no idea why I didn't clue into copyright laws and realise ROMS were illegal. all gone now :)
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kuja [/i]
[B]

[SIZE=1][FONT=century gothic][COLOR=crimson]meaning you cant even download them for 5 seconds. it is TOTALLY illegal in the US to download ROMS at all. even if you own the game. you can NOT download them period. so dont think there is a 24 hour rule at all. THERE ISNT. i suggest if you have ANY ROMs u go and turn yourself in! errrr well get them off your computer at least... and then get the files that show what you have had deleted as well, which is hard to do lol...[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE]


[SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]so why would they be on sites to download them from anyway???? I mean, if its illegal, why are they put on sites? It seems pointless to me. [/COLOR][/SIZE]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i]
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[SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]so why would they be on sites to download them from anyway???? I mean, if its illegal, why are they put on sites? It seems pointless to me. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]Hm, that's very naive of you, Vegitto.

The reason that people put emulators/ROMs on websites is the exact same reason that people put any other illegal content on websites -- there is demand for it.

Many webmasters believe that they won't/can't be caught when it comes to distribution of copyrighted materials.

However, Nintendo of America sued/closed down more than 200 sites last year -- sites which were distributing such illegal software.

The simple fact is, if you are someone who distributes or downloads such software, you are always running at least some kind of risk.[/color]
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Yeah, they're on sites, but those sites are rapidly decreasing in number...kinda like warez and cracks. They're still out there because they still think that rule applies (ignorance). Plus, not a lot of people go through the trouble of tracking down sites that post ROMs...'cause there's just too many of them which probably won't be true in a couple years. Once in a while a site does get closed down because someone finds out and decides to take action.

Also, it's hasn't been nationally adressed so no government agency is going to take serious action.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B]

[color=royalblue]Hm, that's very naive of you, Vegitto.

The reason that people put emulators/ROMs on websites is the exact same reason that people put any other illegal content on websites -- there is demand for it.

Many webmasters believe that they won't/can't be caught when it comes to distribution of copyrighted materials.

However, Nintendo of America sued/closed down more than 200 sites last year -- sites which were distributing such illegal software.

The simple fact is, if you are someone who distributes or downloads such software, you are always running at least some kind of risk.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, if they dont charge, then there is really no point. You probably only get cash poff the hits to the site right?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i]
[B]

Well, if they dont charge, then there is really no point. You probably only get cash poff the hits to the site right? [/B][/QUOTE]

That would be my guess. Every Rom site I have been to (I was doing reseach :shifty: )has a very large amout of advertisements on each page.


And Kuja in the quote from Nintendo it says "it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet". So if you downloaded one it would be legal as long as you don't play it. The only reason I brought that up is because I got a few Roms a while back but I had the wrong emulator to play the Rom so I just deleted it.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kizu [/i]
[B]

That would be my guess. Every Rom site I have been to (I was doing reseach :shifty: )has a very large amout of advertisements on each page.


And Kuja in the quote from Nintendo it says "it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet". So if you downloaded one it would be legal as long as you don't play it. The only reason I brought that up is because I got a few Roms a while back but I had the wrong emulator to play the Rom so I just deleted it. [/B][/QUOTE]

did you mean wouldn't?? if so, you would be wrong. The staement says " download" in there, so once you download it, you are already breaking the law. oh well. such is life eh??
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i]
[B]

Well, if they dont charge, then there is really no point. You probably only get cash poff the hits to the site right? [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]Well, obviously they are earning money via all their stupid porn banners or whatever.

But a lot of the time, these sites aren't created for profit...they're created because people simply like playing old games which they can't access anymore via the retailers.

I mean, it's very attractive to any older gamer to download an old game which he or she has fond memories of.

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