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[QUOTE=Nerdsy][color=deeppink]Religious stigma. Cultural taboos. That someone was a psycho hose-beast.

Clearly a variety of reasons how someone could feel guilty.[/color][/QUOTE][size=1]Eh, no. Unless he would've ellaborate on his post with information about what kind of a situation he's in which would affect whether he'd feel guilty or not, I stand by "don't be silly". If he'd feel guilty afterwards, that'd mean he had done something he shouldn't have. It's like stealing fossiles from national parks, while knowing you shouldn't. You're silly then. Or when you turn a word from someone's post from "you" - in the context of "you as a person" - to "someone". You're silly then too.[/size]
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[quote name='Boo][size=1']Eh, no. Unless he would've ellaborate on his post with information about what kind of a situation he's in which would affect whether he'd feel guilty or not, I stand by "don't be silly". If he'd feel guilty afterwards, that'd mean he had done something he shouldn't have. It's like stealing fossiles from national parks, while knowing you shouldn't. You're silly then. Or when you turn a word from someone's post from "you" - in the context of "you as a person" - to "someone". You're silly then too.[/size][/quote]

[color=deeppink]I was pointing out that there could have been various non "silly" reasons, and that calling his decision silly without knowing his reasoning is jumping to an unfounded conclusion.

And I never changed the context of your word. I merely used a word with a broader scope.[/color]
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[quote name='Peanut][font=tahoma][color=#CC6600]Growing up, people I knew lost their virginity at about 13-16 range. If you were 16, and a virgin, you were considered pretty old.[/font'][/color][/quote]

[size=1]I knew there was another reason I felt old. :p[/size]

[quote name='Peanut][font=tahoma][color=#CC6600]So this girl had an intimate moment with her boyfriend? Have you thought about maybe her feelings as well? If your worried, exploding at this girl would definately have caused the backlash. It's embarrasing being caught in a situation but to tell her brother and then you two attack her is even more so.[/font'][/color][/quote]

[size=1]Take it from a teenaged girl: telling them what they can and can't do is not the best way to keep your hide in one piece. Especially if it is your [i]friends[/i] sister and not yours. 'Cause then she has no real reason NOT to kill you. And it wasn't any of your biz. I, honestly, would have slapped you. That was a pretty stupid move, dude. I wouldn't go anywhere near her house for a while if'n I were you.

And virginity is not bad.[/size]
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[size=1]I think it largely depends on the age of the girl. If she's 11, you might be justified in yelling at her. If she's 18, you were dead wrong. I'm not sure if anyone has brought this point up, but the thread has kinda been tl;dr thus far.

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin, but there is something wrong with essentially making that decision for someone else. It really is a grey area, and I personally believe it largely hinges upon age. Yes, you have a right to do what you please, as it is your life, but I can only apply that logic so far in good conscience. At a certain point, you need to be told what is good for you, because you're just not mentally mature enough to understand what could come about through sex (esp unprotected).

My gut reaction is that you were wrong. More info on the situation, plz?[/size]
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[size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]Virginity is a [i]disease[/i], like AIDS, or Judaism, and it is fatal unless treated properly via the shared exchange of bodily fluids with a consenting member of your own species. Do you want to die Heero? Do you want to die of virginity? I didn't think so. You see, people who make a big deal out of losing it are just [i]concerned for your well being[/i]. It's not spite, you just don't see things the way we do - you don't see the ticking timebomb your undipped dick is.

Go get laid Heero. Your life depends on it.[/font][/color][/size]
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[SIZE=1][COLOR=RoyalBlue]I believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a virgin. I believe that saving yourself for the right person or marriage is a great concept! I, for one, am one, and I believe strongly in abstinence. High-Five for virgins! Also, don't think you're alone. I'm in a facebook group of 20000+ students [both guys and girls] who are saving themselves for marriage [or so they claim].

Anyway, continuing. As for whether or not it was your place to talk to this girl or not, I can't say. It was, however, probably a pretty awkward situation for her, and she probably only made fun of you in order to redeem herself.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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[size=1]I think it's actually quite funny how people are scandalized to find out that teenagers are having sex. Kids aren't getting sexually active sooner. It's actually the opposite. This culture is very prude in comparison to the past. We may have more revealing clothes, but it's no longer appropriate for older people to have sex with twelve-year-olds, we can't openly have mistresses of the side of our relationships, and no one gets married at the age of ten anymore.

What has the world come to?!

Besides, don't you guys know that sex is a good way to work out? It sweats off all that fat. It's basically the best weight-loss plan I can think of.

I don't have anything against virginity, since I still have mine (:p), but... you know, I don't find anything wrong with losing it, either. I figure that our only real purpose in life is to mate anyway and keep the species going. That's how all the other animals are doing it.

And no one can give me the whole abstinence thing, either. I mean, if you don't sleep with the person before marriage... how do you know if they'll keep you sexually satisfied? Plus, as they say, sex stops after marriage anyway. And on your honeymoon... no one wants an awkward sexing if you are both virgins. Come on.[/size]
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This is a opinionated thread I myself don't care whos a virgin and whos not I'm not but if you are big deal its not like your any less of a person or any less unique or totally awesome than you were beforehand.

That girl needed to be straightened out I mean seriously that seemed kind of dirty what she was doing.
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[QUOTE=DeadSeraphim][size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]Virginity is a [i]disease[/i], like AIDS, or Judaism, and it is fatal unless treated properly via the shared exchange of bodily fluids with a consenting member of your own species. Do you want to die Heero? Do you want to die of virginity? I didn't think so. You see, people who make a big deal out of losing it are just [i]concerned for your well being[/i]. It's not spite, you just don't see things the way we do - you don't see the ticking timebomb your undipped dick is.

Go get laid Heero. Your life depends on it.[/font][/color][/size][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]I believe [B]The Long Weekend[/B] called it DSB, or [I]Dangerous Sperm Build-Up[/I]. [/SIZE]
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[quote name='takoyuki'] Every thing's wrong with being a virgin[/quote]So does that include the fact that everyone is born that way? It is kind of unavoidable you know.

And everything doesn't really explain why being a virgin is wrong. Perhaps you could explain just what everything is suppose to be.
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[quote name='Fyxe][size=1']And no one can give me the whole abstinence thing, either. I mean, if you don't sleep with the person before marriage... how do you know if they'll keep you sexually satisfied? Plus, as they say, sex stops after marriage anyway. And on your honeymoon... no one wants an awkward sexing if you are both virgins. Come on.[/size][/quote]
While I understand the general tongue-in-cheek air of this post, realize that you just contradicted yourself.

"... if you don't sleep with the person before marriage... how do you know if they'll keep you sexually satisfied?"
"Plus, as they say, sex stops after marriage anyway."

If sex stops after marriage, then it isn't necessary prior to marriage to figure out if a person will be a suitable sexual mate.


And in regards to "no one wants an awkward sexing if you are both virgins" ... what do you think the internet is for? :P Just because someone's never had sex doesn't mean they don't know where things are. A little fooling around can let you know how to please your mate a great deal without ever actually having sex.

Yes, I'm still a virgin. Yes, I'm proud of it. No, there's nothing wrong with it.


In regards to you chewing out your friend's sister ... probably not the best move. Honestly, I would have cheered her on or something, lol, like, "Woo! Go !!" The embarassment will be good enough. :P
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[COLOR=Indigo][SIZE=1][FONT=Arial][quote name='PiroMunkie']And in regards to "no one wants an awkward sexing if you are both virgins" ... what do you think the internet is for? :P Just because someone's never had sex doesn't mean they don't know where things are. A little fooling around can let you know how to please your mate a great deal without ever actually having sex.[/quote]
Internet = theory. Actually ****ing = practical. Practical != theory, ever. Sure, you can spend your wedding night figuring out how to put a into b, or you can **** before hand and learn how to do things right so your wedding night is actually an intimate, erotic, memorable experience, instead of the fumblings of two virgins with hazy ideas of where and how to do things.

See, I know which [i]I'd[/i] prefer.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[FONT=Tahoma]Boy, a lot of people have had weird experiences upon losing their virginity eh? Everyone seems to be making it seem like when your a virgin you don't have a clue what to do and your doing everything wrong before you finally find out how to do it right. Trial and error is a part of everything, but nowadays it's extremely rare for someone to go into having sex for the first time and legitamatley not know how to do it. The larger is issue is how good it is and the actual quality of the performance more so then figuring out [i]how[/i] to perform. Not saying unknowledged virgins do not exist, but it's being spoken of on too large a scale IMO in this thread. Especially when it comes to married couples and their honeymoon. Whether you've seen a porno, been talked to by your parents, or have just grown up in a public school system, chances are by the time you make the decision to have sex for the first time, you pretty much know the fundamentals of how to have sex, even if you're not Ron Jeremy.[/FONT]
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[QUOTE=PiroMunkie]While I understand the general tongue-in-cheek air of this post, realize that you just contradicted yourself.

"... if you don't sleep with the person before marriage... how do you know if they'll keep you sexually satisfied?"
"Plus, as they say, sex stops after marriage anyway."

If sex stops after marriage, then it isn't necessary prior to marriage to figure out if a person will be a suitable sexual mate.
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[size=1][color=slategray]Yes, I realized that when I wrote it. But I was mainly giving two examples, both of them don't have to apply to the same couple. Haha.

And, anyway, I wouldn't want my honeymoon experience to rely on something my virgin partner learned on the internet. That might involve something freaky... in the strange, extreme way. XD[/color][/size]
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I don't think marriage should depend on how good the two people are in bed. Call me old-fashioned, but marriage is more about love than making love. Or at least it should be.
Now, I myself am a virgin, and Christian. I haven't been "brainwashed" by my religion to think that you're going to hell if you have pre-marital sex; any belief I have is because I came to the decision that it was right. I don't approve of pre-marital sex obviously, but I'm not going to preach damnation if one of my friends has had sex. Sin is sin, but God is forgiving, so not everything should be viewed as your only chance for salvation, but neither should that be taken as being able to do whatever you want and then just asking for forgiveness later.
I don't want to turn this into a religious debate; too often does that happen, and it's always really uncomfortable. But I felt I needed to say that at the very least; show the other side, you know?

I can't speak from experience, but my mother says sex is a very spiritual thing. That's why I want to and am going to save myself for one person. It's not healthy emotionally and physically to "sleep around" (when one is speaking in the case of many, many partners), everyone knows that. I can respect those that protect themselves though, even if I don't agree with their choices in life.

Like everyone else, I say being a virgin is not a bad thing. Situations like the one you had would be hard to handle in the moment, so I can't blame you entirely. But this is something to learn from, about talking to people and not seeming like you're talking down to them or preaching to them; people will perceive it as such though, whether you mean it that way or not, so you have to be careful. People will also respect you more if you talk to them in a calm and collected manner rather than an angry one.
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Yeah I say being a virgin isn't a bad thing but it's one of those things that ya' can't really just bust out and say either....I mean nothin's wrong with it or anything it's just goes to tell ya' your not as sexually "tunned in" as the rest of us overlly-sexual people... :devil: :angel:
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