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[quote name='2007DigitalBoy'][COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]GWAR [/B]is one of the greatest groups to ever grace our puny planet with their almighty presence. If you do not enjoy GWAR, I will have a hard time respecting you :animesigh[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I'm going to hope with every particle of my being that you're being sarcastic.
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[quote name='Jakehammaren']I'm going to hope with every particle of my being that you're being sarcastic.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]I am not. [B]GWAR [/B]are totally awesome. Okay, so about 75 percent of their songs suck total ***, but there are 25 percent that are hilarious, fun, and a good time![/COLOR]
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[quote name='2007DigitalBoy'][COLOR="DarkOrange"]I am not. [B]GWAR [/B]are totally awesome. Okay, so about 75 percent of their songs suck total ***, but there are 25 percent that are hilarious, fun, and a good time![/COLOR][/QUOTE]

...Thus my hope was shattered like glass beneath the hammer.






Hmm... that's a good song lyric...
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[SIZE="1"][COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]I tolerate most music. I grew up around classic rock until my best friend started liking rap/pop and my brother started liking country. So I'm exposed to a lot of stuff.

The one artist that I simply don't understand is Fergie. I mean... she spells. EVERYTHING.

"D to the E to the L-I-C-I-O-U-S"?
"F to the E, R, G the I the E"?
"G, L, A, M, O, R, O-U, S"?
But the worst one... sweet Jesus...
"T to the A to the S-T-E-Y".
How do you spell "tasty" incorrectly?

I just don't get it.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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[quote name='Billy Shears][COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=1]Those bands are just Nickelback in disguise.[/SIZE'][/COLOR][/quote]
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Ha.

That's an on-going joke with my friends and me. [B]Creed[/B], [B]Third Eye Blind[/B], [B]3 Doors Down[/B], [B]Staind[/B], [B]Crossfade[/B], [B]Puddle of Mud[/B], [B]Hinder[/B]...

All are different names for [B]Nickleback[/B], which itself is Latin for sucks.


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[quote name='taperson'][SIZE="1"][COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]I tolerate most music. I grew up around classic rock until my best friend started liking rap/pop and my brother started liking country. So I'm exposed to a lot of stuff.

The one artist that I simply don't understand is Fergie. I mean... she spells. EVERYTHING.

"D to the E to the L-I-C-I-O-U-S"?
"F to the E, R, G the I the E"?
"G, L, A, M, O, R, O-U, S"?
But the worst one... sweet Jesus...
"T to the A to the S-T-E-Y".
How do you spell "tasty" incorrectly?

I just don't get it.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[SIZE="1"]I actually like some of Fergie's songs but I agree with you at the same time. I never got how she spelled so much. My color guard coach actually looked at me and asked what she was spelling. I nearly slapped her but then stopped since she was the one with the huge pole in her hand.

I was internally pissed every time I heard "tasty" spelled wrong. She's ruining the minds of children who are already failing English![/SIZE]
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All are different names for [B]Nickleback[/B], which itself is Latin for sucks.
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[SIZE="1"][COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]Ooh. I don't like Nickelback either... only, I think, 2 of their songs. They're way overrated.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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[quote name='Mr. Maul'][SIZE=1]
Ha.

That's an on-going joke with my friends and me. [B]Creed[/B], [B]Third Eye Blind[/B], [B]3 Doors Down[/B], [B]Staind[/B], [B]Crossfade[/B], [B]Puddle of Mud[/B], [B]Hinder[/B]...

All are different names for [B]Nickleback[/B], which itself is Latin for sucks.


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[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="1"]Nice. You have smart friends, and are among good company in my runnin' crew.

On to another same-old-been-there-done-that trend: puss-metal.

Breaking Benjamin, Taproot, Linkin Park, P.O.D., Mudvayne... so on and so forth.

Now I'm not a metal purist like good ol' Jake, but I think he and several other enlightened members could also back me up on that claim.

And I swear, Fall Out Boy and Panic! At the Disco are the same band too.

I guess what I'm getting at is that most bands who are terrible follow stale, substanceless, cookie-cutter patterns and somehow score a record deal because of a 'uberhawt' singer or the singular reason a majority of these bands and label owners are in it for:

[IMG]http://mgeisler.net/images/100-dollar-bill.png[/IMG]

Them greenbacks, baby.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[quote name='Billy Shears'][COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="1"]

Breaking Benjamin, Taproot, Linkin Park, P.O.D., Mudvayne... so on and so forth.

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[COLOR="Navy"][B]Breaking Benjamin[/B] - I love Breaking Benjamin, people say it's Metal, but I really don't consider them that at all. They have some pretty good lights though. tought I'd get a seizure at they're concert! I've gotten a little more into Disturbed recently though. BB just might become a number two for me.

My friend loves Mudvayne, but I only like two of their songs. World so Cold and Happy are The only two good songs. Linkin park has always been one of my favorite bands. but I've sorta abonded tehm after MTM came out. Didn't like that album much.[/Color]

[B][COLOR="navy"]Nickleback... Worst. Band. Evuh![/COLOR][/B]
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[quote name='Billy Shears'][COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="1"]And I swear, Fall Out Boy and Panic! At the Disco are the same band too.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]They are, XD

Worse yet, apparently [B]Fall Out Boy [/B]uses the program [B]Garage Band [/B]featured on your common [B]OSX Mac [/B]to record their demos. For those who don't know, the program gives you a plethora of simplistic rhythms for each instrument to create music with. And I can't help but think that FOB doesn't actually play music, they just use the preset mechanisms in the system XD

Also, yall reminded me of when the radio stations make fun of [B]Nickelback[/B]. [B]'Every memory of takin it in the backdoor! There's a photo of my friends *** I was looking for!'[/B] XD [SIZE="1"](okay, that's not what they said exactly, I made that up)[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[quote name='Premonition'][COLOR="Navy"][B]Breaking Benjamin[/B] - I love Breaking Benjamin, people say it's Metal, but I really don't consider them that at all. They have some pretty good lights though. tought I'd get a seizure at they're concert! I've gotten a little more into Disturbed recently though. BB just might become a number two for me.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[font=arial][size=1]Both of those bands are #2 to me. ;)

I actually have Disturbed's first demo. They're apparently from North Carolina and record stores around here were selling their demo tapes. It had "Stupefy" and some other song. The important thing is, I liked them when I was in uhhh... fourth grade, man.

At least they have a pretty unique sound, though. I can't even tell Breaking Benjamin from the rest of the radio. They're probably Nickelback, too. I don't know how ANYONE EVER could possibly call them metal.

The difference between radio hard rock and real hard rock (check out [url=http://myspace.com/panthers][b]Panthers[/b][/url]) for me is that mass audiences who listen to pop music intermingled with rock listen to the words moreso that the music. So these bands muffle the guitars, etc. and turn the vocals up. Grr!

So I hate any band that does that. I'm lookin' at you, Breaking Benjamin, Hinder, Crossfade, and Seether.[/font][/size]
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[quote name='Goodbye, Face'][font=arial][size=1]Both of those bands are #2 to me. ;)

I actually have Disturbed's first demo. They're apparently from North Carolina and record stores around here were selling their demo tapes. It had "Stupefy" and some other song. The important thing is, I liked them when I was in uhhh... fourth grade, man.

At least they have a pretty unique sound, though. I can't even tell Breaking Benjamin from the rest of the radio. They're probably Nickelback, too. I don't know how ANYONE EVER could possibly call them metal.

The difference between radio hard rock and real hard rock (check out [url=http://myspace.com/panthers][b]Panthers[/b][/url]) for me is that mass audiences who listen to pop music intermingled with rock listen to the words moreso that the music. So these bands muffle the guitars, etc. and turn the vocals up. Grr!

So I hate any band that does that. I'm lookin' at you, Breaking Benjamin, Hinder, Crossfade, and Seether.[/font][/size][/QUOTE]
I don't think any Breaking Benjamin fans consider them metal, they've been specifically noted as being post-grunge.

And to use them in comparsion with a band like Hinder? For shame. Compare 'Lips of an Angel' by Hinder with 'Polyamorous' or 'So Cold' by Breaking Benjamin, Hell of a lot of difference in quality.
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[size=1]Oh god, where to start?

I really dislike synthesizers. I also really hate Fergie and Nickleback.

Nothing on the radio has caught my attention lately. They just don't seem very heartfelt or epic. 30 Seconds to Mars has been the least generic-sounding recent band lately, but their songs are pretty repetitive too. I think I'm more positively biased about them because Jared Leto is lead singer ... even though he's 40. [/size]
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[quote name='PWNED']I don't think any Breaking Benjamin fans consider them metal, they've been specifically noted as being post-grunge.

And to use them in comparsion with a band like Hinder? For shame. Compare 'Lips of an Angel' by Hinder with 'Polyamorous' or 'So Cold' by Breaking Benjamin, Hell of a lot of difference in quality.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="1"]The point he is making:

All of it sounds the same. It all has stalwart, Pro Tooled, steely production and growly everything.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[quote name='PWNED']I don't think any Breaking Benjamin fans consider them metal, they've been specifically noted as being post-grunge.

And to use them in comparsion with a band like Hinder? For shame. Compare 'Lips of an Angel' by Hinder with 'Polyamorous' or 'So Cold' by Breaking Benjamin, Hell of a lot of difference in quality.[/QUOTE]

No, there's not. It is, as stated above, all the same.

And they don't even deserve a pretentious sub-genre like "post-grunge". But if you want to be specific, it's [I]technically[/I] Generic Radio Rock.


And I'd like to add a few bands to the list: Aryan Terrorism, Nokturnal Mortum, Temnozor, Warhead... this list could go on. They're all NS bands (National Socialist - basically, they're all ignorant, racist Nazi ****s). And yes, I do add these all to the list of Worst Artists Today based solely on lyrical content and ethos.
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[quote=Juuthena][SIZE=1]I really dislike synthesizers. I also really hate Fergie and Nickleback.

Nothing on the radio has caught my attention lately. They just don't seem very heartfelt or epic.[/SIZE][/quote]

[SIZE=1]Oh my...

How can you dislike synthesizers? You want something epic, you're going to have to have synths. That's just how it works.

Check out [B][I][URL="http://sif.omegazorgon.com/maria/music/singles,%20mixes,%20rars/02%20-%20Lex.mp3"]LEX[/URL][/I][/B] by [B]Ratatat[/B]. That is epic use of both guitars and synths.


To add to my list of artists who are not in my favor, I would have to put [B]Savage Garden[/B] towards the top. I just cannot describe how much I dislike this group.

I can't.


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[quote name='Bombu'][color=darkred]Yeah, that guy is pretty insane. I think that the Cannibal Corpse and DevilDriver vocalists are pretty good too, from what I've heard that is, since I don't really listen to them. But everything in music is an art, I reckon, whether you play the triangle, or scream instead of sing. It still requires skill (unless you're in Slipknot and your required skill is to run and jump around the stage).[/color][/QUOTE]

Jakehammaren, remember when DevilDriver's vocalist threw a temper tantrum onstage? You know, when he's arguing with the stage hand who politely asked him not to stomp on the venue's microphone?

DD:"WHOSE MIC IS THIS!?"
"That's... That's my mic."
DD:*stomp stomp stomp* "WHOSE MIC IS THIS!?"
"That's MY mic. Don't-"
DD:*grrstompstomp* "THIS IS MY MIC!"
"No, that ISN'T your mic. That's our mic, and it's very expensive-"
DD:"TELL ME THIS IS MY MIC!"

And like two drunk guys in the back were like "yeah!" and the rest of the crowd basically hid in embarassment.

Also, he's a terrible, terrible vocalist. Godawful, in fact.

[quote name='Mr. Maul'][SIZE=1]Oh my...

How can you dislike synthesizers? You want something epic, you're going to have to have synths. That's just how it works.

Check out [B][I][URL="http://sif.omegazorgon.com/maria/music/singles,%20mixes,%20rars/02%20-%20Lex.mp3"]LEX[/URL][/I][/B] by [B]Ratatat[/B]. That is epic use of both guitars and synths.


To add to my list of artists who are not in my favor, I would have to put [B]Savage Garden[/B] towards the top. I just cannot describe how much I dislike this group.

I can't.


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I have to second that. Ratatat is a surprisingly well-orchestrated group, and they are very, very explorative musicians.

Also, the entirety of the Grunge movement needs to be added to the list.

In reference to Jakehammaren's comment, post-grunge is like basically saying that "We're the **** that sounded really terrible and died ten years ago, but with distortion and even more annoyingly nasal vocals." So, it fits Breaking Benjamin quite well.

[quote name='Jakehammaren']I was just reminded violently of another band I can't stand:

I hate Meshuggah. Sure the vocals are terrible, but there are worse things about them. They have the Dragonforce syndrome: once you've heard 30 seconds of one of their songs, you've heard everything the band has ever recorded. All I ever hear from their fanboys is "YA BUT DID U HEER TEH TIME SINGATARZ??! TEY ARE LIEK CRAZY TIME SIGNATARZ AND THAT MAEKS THEM AWESUM!!!1!!11!!one1!!!1" And then when I say "Nope, they're still terrible", they always tell me that I've obviously only listened to one song and written them off. No, I've tried. I really have. I've suffered through three entire albums in hopes that I'd understand why some people are so excited about these wankers, and guess what? I got three albums of the same exact song. Sure, they can play songs in time signatures like 143/75 and 27/Blue, but that doesn't mean they write good music. Awful, boring band that I'm sure I will be accused of not appreciating complex music for not enjoying their pretentious monotony.[/QUOTE]

/Jake

Dude, tolerance. You get pissy when people only listen to thirty seconds of your songs, so don't go blowing up in the face of some decent musicians because you didn't like one of their albums. You've heard "Catch 33" and "Nothing". "Catch 33"'s songs all sound the same because the [i]entire album is one song[/i]. "Nothing" all sounds the same because, well, many of the tracks [i]do[/i] sound the same. A lot of that is due to the fact that later on in their career, Meshuggah opted for a more unified sound. Listen to their album "Destroy Erase Improve". It's a little earlier on in their career, and there's a lot more track variation.

I just hate it when people flame because they (yes) don't understand the music. There's a lot of really strange and interesting bands that not everyone will like, for example, the entire Drone lineup. However, that doesn't mean they're "terrible", it just means you don't like them. Objectivity should not only be limited to bands you like, Jake.

[quote name='Jakehammaren']Wow, I've missed so many chances to be pretentious and correct people during this thread, I think I could cry. Dangit!

Oh well. I'll just have to come in at this: Synth Rock is not a genre. At all. Ever.[/QUOTE]

Correction: Synth Rock is not a genre [i]yet[/i]. Eventually, people will start listening to Ratatat, and when that happens, cue ****** knockoff bands!
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[color=#9933ff][font=lucida calligraphy]I'm about to add a new band to this list.

[center][b]Gym Class Heros[/center][/b]

Ugh! I hate them so friggin' much! And they get an over abundance of air time here in Western New York because they just happen to be from Geneva which is 40 minutes from Rochester. They give New Yorkers and western New York bands (IE Goo Goo Dolls- yeah make fun of me , but I like them) a bad name.

Really guys, no one cares about your girlfriend who isn't much of a girlfriend so shut up and go tip some cows or something.

Thus ends my rant. I have to go back to work[/color][/font]
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[quote name='0ber0n the Neko']Jakehammaren, remember when DevilDriver's vocalist threw a temper tantrum onstage? You know, when he's arguing with the stage hand who politely asked him not to stomp on the venue's microphone?

DD:"WHOSE MIC IS THIS!?"
"That's... That's my mic."
DD:*stomp stomp stomp* "WHOSE MIC IS THIS!?"
"That's MY mic. Don't-"
DD:*grrstompstomp* "THIS IS MY MIC!"
"No, that ISN'T your mic. That's our mic, and it's very expensive-"
DD:"TELL ME THIS IS MY MIC!"

And like two drunk guys in the back were like "yeah!" and the rest of the crowd basically hid in embarassment.

Also, he's a terrible, terrible vocalist. Godawful, in fact.



I have to second that. Ratatat is a surprisingly well-orchestrated group, and they are very, very explorative musicians.

Also, the entirety of the Grunge movement needs to be added to the list.

In reference to Jakehammaren's comment, post-grunge is like basically saying that "We're the **** that sounded really terrible and died ten years ago, but with distortion and even more annoyingly nasal vocals." So, it fits Breaking Benjamin quite well.



/Jake

Dude, tolerance. You get pissy when people only listen to thirty seconds of your songs, so don't go blowing up in the face of some decent musicians because you didn't like one of their albums. You've heard "Catch 33" and "Nothing". "Catch 33"'s songs all sound the same because the [i]entire album is one song[/i]. "Nothing" all sounds the same because, well, many of the tracks [i]do[/i] sound the same. A lot of that is due to the fact that later on in their career, Meshuggah opted for a more unified sound. Listen to their album "Destroy Erase Improve". It's a little earlier on in their career, and there's a lot more track variation.

I just hate it when people flame because they (yes) don't understand the music. There's a lot of really strange and interesting bands that not everyone will like, for example, the entire Drone lineup. However, that doesn't mean they're "terrible", it just means you don't like them. Objectivity should not only be limited to bands you like, Jake.



Correction: Synth Rock is not a genre [i]yet[/i]. Eventually, people will start listening to Ratatat, and when that happens, cue ****** knockoff bands![/QUOTE]

Sure, I've only heard "Catch 33" the entire way through. Twice. I've heard "Nothing" the entire way through twice. And "I". And "Chaosphere". So yeah, I've [I]totally[/I] only heard 30 seconds of one of their songs.

I do understand the music. It's rhythmically complex. Whoopdy-do. They've written a bunch of albums full of the same song. I don't care if they can play in time signatures that don't even exist because they're too mind-bendingly difficult to comprehend. They're downright repetitive. They're as - if not more - repetitive than DragonForce, and that's saying a lot. Hell, you yourself flat out said:

[QUOTE]"Nothing" all sounds the same because, well, many of the tracks [i]do[/i] sound the same.[/QUOTE]

There you go. In fact, I'm getting suspicious that you only defend them so that you can say "oh, you just don't understand it". And this is coming from the kid who says that Blind Guardian "only plays barred chords on the 8th, 10th, and 12th frets", when their music is entirely based on Rennaisance, a style in which that progression doesn't even exist. In other words, no, they never, ever use that progression. You simply don't understand it on a very fundamental level. THAT is not understanding a band's music. So don't start making stuff up about me writing off Meshuggah after "only listening to 30 seconds of their songs" when you [I]know[/I] I've endured many an album of their material trying to appreciate it. I don't like them because they try to pass of the fact that they can only write one song by throwing in as many ridiculous time signatures as they can. I'm not trying to change your opinion of them, I never was. I just can't stand their crap.

I understand that you like it, but I promise you don't understand it any better than I do. You and I both know I count time signatures better than you can. So really, I understand Meshugga's music better than you in the first place. And guess what? I still hate it.
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